• heavyboots@lemmy.ml
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    4 days ago

    Like an order of magnitude worse?

    • No sitting president before him has been a convicted felon.
    • No sitting president before him has been involved in the sheer volume of sexual scandals from assault to cheating to being implicated in possible pedophilia.
    • No sitting president before him has refused to return literally boxes and boxes of classified documents which he kept as trophies (or possibly as items for sale) while storing them in extremely inappropriate ways. (This is extremely different from Biden, btw, who promptly returned a few accidentally retained documents. Trump was playing shell games with them, repeatedly swearing he had returned them all while doing things like loading them on planes to move to other locations, etc.)
    • No sitting president before him has attempted to overthrow the government when they lost an election.
    • The level of bribery and corruption in his administration is off the charts.
    • The number of lies he tells has always been off the charts. (“I’ve never heard of Project 2025!” while having given a speech to its members and now following its plans to dismantle the federal government.)
    • His department heads have all been picked to dismantle the departments they’re in. (Project 2025 again)

    And then of course there is the christofascism angle, which is extremely disturbing because he definitely plans to never leave power again. He’s currently trying hard to normalize use of military force against US citizens so he can seize control of the elections to make sure they go his way.

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      Ok, all true.

      Just was hoping we could deep dive in american history but now I remember this site is still pretty shallow.

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        If this is your reaction to a thoughful response, you are not going to find deep discussions anywhere, even where they exist.

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            This was your opportunity to put your counter arguments in about how shady the rest of American politics is/was. However, you resorted to name calling and generalized BS. Why not engage in an actual discussion instead of folding?

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              Name calling? I agreed with you, I just was looking for a different discussion. Aside from constant trump bashing, which I myself take part, there is more than just one man. If I had the answer I was looking for I wouldn’t have asked.

              I have no idea why youre upset. It is one hundred percent apparent discussion on these boards is not very deep. I see it in many of the questions I ask. I hate to say it but the amount of thoughtful responses I see pale in comparison to, say, reddit.

              Stop taking shit so personal…

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                Learn to read usernames, for starters. This is my first comment in this thread. Secondly, you called the person “so fucking sensitive” when they were actually just engaging with you. It’s up to you to then make your point, and instead you called him sensitive as a dig. That’s name calling. Also, I am genuinely not upset, but you sure sound worked up. It sounds like you want to start a fight and not a discussion.

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        I mean I don’t have the amount of time necessary to go into how dirty past presidents have been and I certainly don’t have the knowledge at my fingertips. But also, I think the stuff like Watergate and Monica Lewinski is barely a blip on the chart when you put Trump on it too. Which is not to say I condone the behavior of those presidents or seek to normalize their behavior. Just that from a numerical perspective it barely registers.