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I’ve done it. I’ve finally reached my “old man yells at cloud” moment. Why, why, WHY is Spotify adding features straight out of the social media playbook?
Anybody have recommendations for alternatives?
In my head there’s:
YouTube music (google, gross)
Apple music (no way they’re not on a similar trajectory)
Bandcamp (limited, but at least bands see some money from it)
SoundCloud (weird reputation, though haven’t come back around to it in a good 10 years)
Tidal maybe? Would love to hear some recommendations.
Edit: I neglected to mention why I don’t like the messaging feature. I’ve never used it, yet with a few of my friends there are already dozens of song exchanges in the thread. It’s clear that spotify has been using user-specific links for a while now to track who sends what to who. That’s a pretty clear anti-feature for me, and is enough to make me jump ship.
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Buying and ripping CDs is my way to go. Completely without social media features.
The social aspect is talking to the cashier.
They said social media.
Well that’s the CD
What even…
That’s so much effort and clutter when you can just download MP3s or FLACs from the web.
Indeed, with services like bandcamp, Beatport and Trax source, you can download load MP4, WAV and many more.
I was thinking more getting into OPH or RED or using SLSK, but whatever you like to do!
Bandcamp because you discover music since albums are so cheap.
Qobuz is good IMHO. I’ve heard good things about Tidal too.
I left Spotify for TIDAL a couple months ago. No complaints here!
Bandcamp + Yar har fiddle dee dee + Jellyfin or Plex.
I’d steer away from Plex. Their devs have clearly been headed in the wrong direction. Enshittification inbound.
Obligatory I miss what.cd 🥲
Until jellyfin isn’t garbage, and has basic functionality like using a remote compatible interface that’s going to be a no dawg. My lifetime membership has been worth its weight in gold.
I feel you on the interface - genuinely. I also got the lifetime… But honestly they are becoming more and more “disconnected” from their roots. The latest ui changes would embarrass a first year art student and make a ui/ux developer weep. As a developer it’s infuriating watching the decisions these people make.
Kodi using the plugin to sync your jellyfin library. Works a treat.
If we are talking mobile, I use Finamp for playing music from Jellyfin and it does the job.
Come to think of it, I don’t use any of the official jellyfin apps, there are plenty of options because it’s all open.
RIP WCD
I’m on some new alternatives and they’re good, but WCD was unbeatable.
I’m still of the mind that what got taken out because it was starting to support artists better than their labels / streaming platforms did. Losing it was a catastrophic blow to music preservation.
For music something like Navidrome is much better, IMO. But you could easily host it in addition to the former two, not instead.
Oh, and you can combine the subscription to Tidal with yar har by umm… permanently caching the songs offline by means of 3rd party tools. It might seem pointless at first glance, but having the music stored on your server ensures you’ll keep having it, while you still can spontaneously explore new stuff on Tidal.
I’m so glad I still just buy and maintain my own local music library.
Same, but I still want some form of a recommendation engine. I also want to discover new music.
I do use Spotify for that as I have a family plan for the family, I have also tried Apple Music. Spotify I tried to seed only with the newest stuff I listen to and Apple Music knows most of what I already listen fo.
Both can work but they are both a lot of work before I come up with something I really want to buy. It’s hard to guide them to more obscure stuff, even if you explicitly only train them on that kinda stuff.
I tend to have better luck just with being on subreddits for specific types of music or discussing music with friends. The quality to obscurity ratio can be quite high if a real genre expert shows up and gives a brain dump. Last.fm can be quite useful too.
Can always discover using YouTube Music with an ad blocker. Then add what you like to you local collection. Or use something like last.fm to track everything you listen to, no matter the platform, and get recommendations that way
Spotify has been on the way to ruin for a while already. The UI is partly Tiktokified/Instagramified.
Tidal is great as far as streaming services go in general.
I hear people saying Tidal is unethical because of where its finding is coming from, and the ties its investors have.
Qobuz seems to be the shit as the next alternative.
Hm, I watched Fantanos streaming service tierlist and from what I’ve seen, they seem to be on the better side businesswise. And I do like the product much more than Spotify nowadays, but I’m one of those weird people that listen to whole albums and not to algotorial playlists to study/relax/makeyourtaxes to.
Fantanos streaming service tierlist
I’ll have to check that out. 👍
I’m one of those weird people that listen to whole albums
Same, bro. Me too. ❤️🎶
I recently cancelled spotify and switched to a selfhosted navidrome server to stream my personal music collection.
I’ve done the same thing. Works real nice. Using Symfonium on my Android phone
I’m using Qobuz for music streaming. It’s alright.
Last time I checked they pay artists more than the competition, they curate playlists and editorial content rather than pushing AI left and right, and my experience is generally good.
Minus points for lacking API and native Linux client. On desktop Linux the web app works well.
I like streaming music, I dont need to own it, but I have been struggling to find a good music streaming service.
I used Spotify for years but the amount of garbage they keep adding made me cancel my subscription. The last straw was when “smart shuffle” kept automatically turning itself back on.
First I switched to YouTube Music but the user experience is honestly trash and I moved on pretty quickly. The separation between video and music service was ridiculously inconsistent.
I used Tidal for a few months and I appreciated the simple UI. However, the recommendations are insanely bad. Not once have I found a new, good track on the daily mix to add to my library, it was driving me crazy.
I started using Qobuz only a few weeks ago. The track radio is honestly pretty bad so far. I start the radio on a lofi track and start hearing video game ambience noises 5 tracks later. Literally bird sounds with whitenoise from an OST album. I havent tried the daily/weekly queue a lot yet, but I hope its decent because I dont know what to try next.
I wish Spotify hadn’t entshittified, it had the best recommendations/radios by far but its just not usable for me anymore.
Funny that i switched from YT music to Spotify for a while and found its recommendations much worse. The app was cool and flashy though, especially on tv
I think what helped my Spotify recommendations a lot was the option to “exclude from taste profile”. I might listen to lofi for 12 h straight but I dont want any lofi recommendations at all, so that feature was nice.
Also I never pressed “like” on anything, I only ever disliked things in order to keep recommendations more open. It felt like Spotify understood the assignment while e.g. Tidal kept blasting me with a genre that I accidentally listened to one track of and kept “disliking” every single artists.
Deezer is my streamer of choice, nearly identical with artists, OK discovery. Premium includes high def and you can currently stream to multiple devices, like, say, play on sonos for the Kids and listen to yourself without one device stopping
You can also rip music files from deezer into .flac
I’m content with tidal for now. I mainly listen to music on my desktop, and I like that it’s just music. No podcasts or things I don’t want to see.
Winamp died because the company that acquired it tried to turn it into an everything app.
Winamp died for our sins :(
Misread that as winamp died for our skins.
This as well.
Winamp died because pirating music mostly died. That’s the only reason.
Winamp died because the jump from 2 to 3 (if memory serves) was a profound hit to system resources… Followed by the dev team apparently fucking off on anything that wasn’t optimization (see above for likely reason.)
Add in a dose of music platforms figuring out streaming and you can put the final nail in that coffin.
spotify started with more social media feel
Just don’t use the feature. Not everything is screech worthy.
That’s a fair response to the original post. Made an edit to expound.
My problem with it is that I’ve never used Spotify messages, yet there’s already a few threads on my account with dozens of “messages”. My best guess is that the thread tracks unique links that I’ve sent to friends outside of the app and they’ve opened while logged in with their accounts. I don’t like that.
Its funny how people are still using Spotify when other services exist. But yea people, complain about Spotify and it’s features.
Edit: if you don’t like something quit it, don’t complain. Companies don’t understand until numbers start dropping.
