Per the title. If an animal dies out in nature without any human involvement, shouldn’t it be considered vegan to harvest any of the useful parts from it (not nessicarily meat, think hide), since there was no human-caused suffering involved?

Similarly, is driving a car not vegan because of the roadkill issue?

Especially curious to hear a perspective from any practicing moral vegans.

Also: I am not vegan. That’s why I’m asking. I’m not planning on eating roadkill thank you. Just suggesting the existence of animal-based vegan leather.

  • kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    2 days ago

    If you don’t make a moral distinction between humans and other animals, it seems difficult to justify scavenging with any logic that couldn’t also be used to justify grave robbing, cannibalism, or even necrophilia.

    • pastaq@lemmy.world
      2·
      6 hours ago

      This is strawman reasoning. No vegan I’ve ever met belives that there’s no moral distinction between human and non human animals. They believe that non human and have moral worth, and that moral worth is higher than 15 minutes of taste pleasure or shoes, etc.

      The basic logic flows like this:

      • Non human animals are capable of subjective experiences, which includes the ability to suffer.
      • Exploitation of or killing of animals causes suffering.
      • It isn’t essential, under normal circumstances in modern society, to cause that suffering for our survival.
      • It isn’t morally permissible to cause unnecessary suffering.
    • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz
      11·
      7 hours ago

      If you don’t make any sort of moral distinction between humans and animals then sex might become on interesting topic.