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    Socialism: what do you call the nordic countries? They have reasonable incentives. If they qualify then yes.

    Communism: does China qualify as communist or are they some kind of former communist with capitalist reforms?

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      Nordic countries are social democracies. Workers have never owned the means of production. It’s a form of capitalism. This was a concession the ruling class gave to the workers since much of Europe wanted the benefits that Soviet citizens were receiving under socialism. Social democracy was used to appease the civilians so they don’t revolt. The rich get to stay rich, and the poors get free health care.

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      China never even advertize themselves as a communist country, the official speak is “Socialism with Chinese Characteristic” – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism_with_Chinese_characteristics , but often being moked as another way to say “state-sponsored/authoritarian capitalism”.

      In the party’s official narrative, socialism with Chinese characteristics is Marxism adapted to Chinese conditions and a product of scientific socialism. The theory stipulated that China was in the primary stage of socialism due to its relatively low level of material wealth and needed to engage in economic growth before it pursued a more egalitarian form of socialism, which in turn would lead to a communist society described in Marxist orthodoxy.[2]