• Fizz@lemmy.nz
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    2 days ago

    1000 streams is like having 10 or 20 followers. Its not a high bar to clear if you make decent music. I fully disagree thay artists who dont sell well or at all deserve to be paid. If you create stuff thats of no value to people then no one will pay you it can’t work any other way.

    Like you said art should be created for fun and not for monetary gain so if they dont make the 1000 stream threshold its fine. There is still plenty of incentive to create a diverse range of music.

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      Music is subjective claiming that a song below 1000 streams is a bad song or that song that had no value for most people or thst people are just not aware of do not deserve to be payed ia ridiculous

      Also the idea that artists should make music only for fun is ridiculous too.

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        I didnt claim it was a bad song. Do you thinking paying people to upload music to Spotify regardless of view count would somehow increase the quality of music? It would have the opposite affect attracting unserious musicians to the platform which would directly complete in recommendation algorithms with people who actually try to make music.

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          I didnt claim it was a bad song. Do you thinking paying people to upload music to Spotify regardless of view count would somehow increase the quality of music?

          Yes.

          It would have the opposite affect attracting unserious musicians to the platform which would directly complete in recommendation algorithms with people who actually try to make music.

          Who are you to say who is the serious artists and who isn’t. The recommendation algorithms push people to copy each other killing innovation and artistic control . Demonetize songs to pay bigger artists including the biggest artists in the industry is completely fair . Yo should worry more about how loose Spotify is with AI generated music to hurt small artists even more.

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            If they are serious they’ll break 1000 streams. Paying artists that people listen is more fair than paying artists no one listens to yes.

            Also Spotify pays so low per stream I doubt 1000 streams even covers the transaction fee.

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              You shouble be ashamed of minimizing small artists efforts. You don’t know ish about how hard the industry is. As a super fan of music I have build connection with small local artists failing to have regular over 1000 streams tracks let alone 1000 per years. They do everything right like in real life networking, participating in competitions, asking advices and retroaction from better profesionals.

              You are no different than people who say anybody who is poor is because he is lazy and not serious while defending billionaires

              It doesn’t matter how small the money is for 1000 streams. Any artist should still get money from streams and not stealing that money to give them to mainstream artists.

              Instead of shaming small artists you should adress spotify being loose about blocking ai generated music, giving big artists right to use AI and giving advances to major label and if the revenus are less than the advance the label still keep the difference

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                You realise we’re arguing over less than $4(before transaction fees and tax) per year.

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                  Yes. If you go to a supermarket missing 1 cent you will be rejected from buying all what you planned to buy.

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                    Not equivalent. Plus there is plenty of shops that dont care of you’re a bit short a cent or two is nothing. Ive gone to shops and forgotten my card and walked away with $20 of food and i just pay them next time I’m in.

                    If you’re a cent short just go talk to the checkout lady and she’ll sort it out.

                    $4 over a year is a rounding error.