• Dogyote@slrpnk.net
        240·
        2 年前

        But will their lives really be any different whether they win or lose? It’s not like they’re being invaded by a country with a different economic system.

        Edit: Look at Crimea, how’d that go for the average Crimean? Any significant differences in their quality of life?

        • Zorque@kbin.social
          261·
          2 年前

          If you see no differences between the Ukrainian government, flawed as it has been, and the Russian government under Putin… you may need to look a little deeper.

            • MxM111@kbin.social
              141·
              2 年前

              Ukrainians disagree. And they are the ones that matter. If you want to live in slavery or without political rights, it is your choice, of course.

              • Dogyote@slrpnk.net
                19·
                2 年前

                Well yeah, it’s up to them, but I don’t think they’re monolithic. They’ll eventually negotiate once they run out of men or weapons. I don’t think they’d be slaves if Russia captured Kyiv either. Perhaps without political rights, but that wasn’t much different than before.

            • wombatula@lemm.eeEnglish
              21·
              2 年前

              So by that logic, Ukraine and in fact every country that Putin sets his eyes on should just roll over and surrender?

              The mere threat of violence should allow a dictator to take over, as long as the country is moderately corrupt?

              I hate to break it to you, that’s nearly every country in the world, so Putin (or any other dictator) could become the world’s emperor if they just made a credible threat?

              This is why total pacifism is insanity folks.

            • fosforus@sopuli.xyz
              21·
              2 年前

              Yet somehow almost every nation that’s neighboring Russia is ready to fight Russia just for the privilege of not being in Russia. We cannot all be just delusional.