• CosmoNova@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    What we need are laws to prevent this kind of court trolling because courts all over europe are wasting time and money on these repeated proposals. Politicians should be held accountable for wasting everyone’s time.

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      16 days ago

      I thought a lot about fair government and such when I was 16-17.

      And it came down to any such action being individual, thus having an initiator, who is the responsible person, or a group of such.

      And such laws, when not passing through courts, should require a huge payment (should be tied to total GDP, I think), equally split among members of that group (so a group does not become an entity).

      No person from among them can initiate anything such until having paid the previous.

      It seems logical, I mean. If something IRL is being overloaded, it should just be a paid service. Same here.

      Should be expensive enough so to not be an acceptable cost of doing business for a corrupt politician.

      Also the cost should depend on which tier of laws this is - suppose regulation of milk products is lower tier than total fscking surveillance.

      Also the court should be able to determine whether a rejected initiative is a repetition, in which case the cost will be, say, order x 12 x “last year’s GDP” x coefficient x tier.

      It’s ridiculous that lawmaking is free, with the amount of value it redistributes.

  • Talaraine@fedia.io
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    18 days ago

    Literally on the heels of the revelation that China is spying on all chats and phone calls, these clowns still think back doors are safe in any way.

    I swear, humanity is simply failing the IQ test here.

  • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    18 days ago

    If y’all wanna know why is this stupid

    Take a look at the so-called “TSA-Approved Locks”

    The locks that lets TSA have a “special key” to unlock your bags to search then without cutting it open.

    The same “special key” is available to buy on amazon.

    🤣

    It’s even worse than no locks, since someone could plant drugs in your bag using the “special key”, and since there’s no evidence of tampering, and the bag is also locked, the blame falls on you.

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      17 days ago

      For anyone else who’s curious about the history I actually went and looked this up. Photos of the keys were accidentally leaked on the Travel Sentry website. This made it very easy to copy. The website says “Sensitive Information – do not post, copy or disseminate”. Clearly someone elected to do the opposite.

    • wurstgulasch3000@lemmy.world
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      18 days ago

      Oh no you don’t understand, with this legislation bad actors and foreign intelligence would not be allowed to use these back doors. So they can’t do it because it’s illegal. That’s why it’s 100% safe. I mean don’t you trust the it competence of 60+ year old law makers?

      OK I will stop now

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          18 days ago

          I believe DeviantOllam recommends putting a gun in your bag (from memory a starter gun counts as a gun to TSA but doesn’t have the whole licence restrictions of an actual firearm). Because you have a gun you are allowed to lock it with an actual padlock and the TSA can’t just go through your stuff. If you put a padlock on otherwise they’ll just cut it off and you’re back to square one.

      • cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de
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        18 days ago

        I just use a zip tie. It keeps the bag shut and it’s obvious if they open it. Of course they could potentially replace it with an identical zip tie. You can get security seals that are serial numbered if you want to protect against that.

    • Wrufieotnak@feddit.org
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      18 days ago

      It was the one good thing the german liberal party FDP was good for, but they aimed to destroy the coalition from the inside (literally! they made plans and discussion meetings when the best time to destroy it would be). And now they are out and we have the SPD and the Greens left. So one party who really has a hard on for surveillance and the other one who is undecided.

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    17 days ago

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    In all seriousness, the EU has become beyond frustrating in so many ways… Kudos for fighting against corporate monoliths, but… c’moon!

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      17 days ago

      I don’t think you get the EU. It’s a democracy and everyone can submit proposals.

      This is a proposal from pro-Russian Orban from Hungary, and not EU’s opinion.

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        17 days ago

        It’s a democracy where the European Commission (which is actually the main governing body of the EU and not EP) is comprised of people put there by bureaucracies.

        I don’t think you get the EU. It’s a failed attempt at powerful democratic version of USSR, that has been retconned into a successful confederacy, only it’s not that too.

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      18 days ago

      To answer seriously: unfortunately, the UK is one step ahead with the Online Safety Act. They’ve already given Ofcom the power to enforce client-side scanning. Ofcom themselves are deciding whether they want to use this power yet and this should happen sometime next year.

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          15 days ago

          I think (and hope!) it would likely only get applied to the biggest services, and would be enforced by removal from the app stores.

          Then, the logical next step for the government when this doesn’t work would be to allow this requirement at the OS level.

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      17 days ago

      First they came for whatsapp. I didn’t say anything because I don’t use whattsapp.

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      17 days ago

      It would concern all messaging apps, which is beyond stupid. Lol, even nato uses the matrix protocol.

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      17 days ago

      And instead use what? Signal? And then chat with the zero other people who use it?

      Telling europeans to not use whatsapp is like telling people not to use the power grid. It’s more popular here than iMessages are in the US.

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        17 days ago

        I’m European using signal, I frequent in two countries very often (not neighbouring countries) and for the past two years I’ve noticed more and more people using signal.

        Ditched whatsapp half a year ago and haven’t had problems. Some friends use both signal and whatsapp.

        Not saying many in whole Europe use signal but it certainly is not only popular in US.

        Edit: but not saying using signal will change anything if this bill passes. No matter what popular app we use we are going to have no privacy at all if this thing passes…

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        17 days ago

        Why do you assume I’m American? I am, but you would have no way of knowing that. I could be Croatian for all you know.

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        17 days ago

        I dont know a single euroepean that is using WhatsApp, and im european… i mostly encounter asian people that use it.