I know this might start war in the comments so please chill people, I don’t want to get 20 reports from this single post.

  • Ech@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    I just want to voice my opinion that not every article about video games needs to be shared/promoted, particularly gamergate-lite shit like this. “Only” whinging about how non-cis white male characters are included in games is hardly any better than the chuds bombing the game on metacritic.

    I’d also argue this violates your own sub’s rule (rule 9), not because it’s about “political” genders, but for explicitly calling peoples’ existence “political messaging”.

    • groet@feddit.org
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      2 months ago

      You didn’t read the article did you? Its not about the inclusion of a character, but about how a specific scene with that character is handled. The author claims it is completely jarring, doesn’t fit into the games setting and doesn’t even use the games existing lore for transgender people but instead uses modern terminology.

      I found the article to very informative and not at all “gamergatey”.

      Its points are:

      • this is the scene
      • it is bad
      • here is exelent trans representation in a fantasy setting
      • “its a BioWare self insert”
      • this is how they could have handled it better
      • the game is great, but now everybody will just talk about woke, so again the game is good
      • Viri4thus@feddit.org
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        2 months ago

        Every time I say the horseshoe theory is stupid I open a forum and am proven wrong…

            • Ech@lemm.ee
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              2 months ago

              Lol. The admonishment for “misusing” gamergate by citing horseshoe theory as if it’s in any way applicable is hilariously on point. Good luck with that “enlightened” centrism.

              • Doburoku@lemmy.world
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                2 months ago

                It’s ok to be wrong. It’s how we grow. Being right all the time is boring and delusional.

      • Ech@lemm.ee
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        2 months ago

        Its not about the inclusion of a character, but about how a specific scene with that character is handled.

        You didn’t read my comment, did you? Like the part where I specifically mention that? I don’t care if the scene was shot on a camcorder for a student created after-school special on a PTA budget. Acting like that’s the problem instead of any of the reactionary bullshit to it is not the viewpoint of someone who truly cares about these populations. Where’s the “helpful” article about shitty hetero romance scenes in countless movies/shows/games and how we should do better there? Those don’t cause a blip. But this? This is a “problem”. Fuck that.

        and doesn’t even use the games existing lore for transgender people but instead uses modern terminology.

        This reads like those losers that rage about black people in The Witcher because it’s “noT hIStoRIcaLlY AccuRAtE”. Bemoaning “modern terminology” is so pointless. They’re also speaking modern languages through the majority of the game. Gonna write a Forbes “article” about that, too?

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      2 months ago

      I’m sorry but (all other issues with the scene aside) pretending that performative “apologies” are a good thing actually is genuinely problematic. Performative apologies are inherently manipulative by drawing attention away from the thing you’re apologising for and by being designed to be an effort that feels bad to reject.