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I’ve always found the religion excuse to be a scapegoat, an excuse to not try for peace. The fact is that people care about a lot of other stuff above religion, including food, shelter, water, quality of life, self-determination, hope, etc. The Palestinians would 100% make peace if they can have those things. People with differing religions live in the US, the UK, and all sorts of places. Hell, they lived fine together in that same area during the Ottoman Empire and before. There are even plenty of Christian Palestinians, too.
Sure there’s a lot of animosity now, but I bet in one generation of living together, they’d be mostly fine. Just look at the differences between the Civil rights in the 60’s, where you had various violent black liberation groups, Malcolm X saying the rift could never be healed and black people should make their own place in Africa, etc. And then there’s the 70’s and 80’s, where you started having the black friend in every movie, to today, where we had a black President. It’s not perfect, even now, but way better than the Palestinians in Gaza. Just let the kids go to school together for a few years lol.
Now there is a couple religious issues that will need to ironed out, but that’s where a strong, neutral hand is required. And i think a one state solution even helps some of those. Such as with a one-state solution, everyone gets Jerusalem and shares it. With a two state solution, you have to do this weird thing where ostensibly no one gets it, even though Israel has all the power over it.
Right now, they want mutually exclusive things in that Israel wants all the land and Palestinians want to live in the place they’ve lived for generations, as well as food, water, etc. Palestinians will shout from the river to the sea, but they’ve shown willingness to settle for a 2 state solution plenty of times before. On the other hand, Israel has no reason to similarly bend. But, if Israel didn’t have so much power because of the US, their position probably wouldn’t be so inflexible. They couldn’t afford to be, and then maybe we’d see some compromise.
I agree that the US would probably hurt more than help, though.
I’d love to see this tried in a court of law some day.
“Look judge, people kill each other all the time. I don’t know why we’re making such a big deal out of this. Geeeesh. Bunch of whiners.”
Anyway, people criticize the US for this stuff all the time. The whole idea of the left is to learn from and evolve and grow past those horrible roots.
I mean, preferably. And then give them a vote, too. But then I believe in a one state solution.
It’s better than just keeping them all in an open air prison.
Who? The Palmach? At least they didn’t try to ally with the Nazis like Lehi.
Holy fuck. That article has some damning parts 😮
It’s definitely possible. South Africa managed it. All the black people didn’t kill all the white as soon as they got democracy, and in fact, white people kept a lot of the power, land, and money after lol. You just require a strong Constitution, international support and diplomats at the table, and a peace and reconciliation commission to push peace and moving forward over revenge. Create strong protections in the Constitution and some UN oversight for a bit and you should be fine. Have the new government, now a coalition of the former Israeli government and the Palestinian Authority government, work together with the international community to remove Hamas. Have all that international aid build up the run-down Palestinian parts of the country, like in Gaza, so they stop having power problems, have drinkable water,and not bombed buildings. (The PA fought a civil war against Hamas before, and Hamas has less than majority support in Gaza, so plenty of Palestinians would fight them to keep peace if the quality of life without their interference was better.)
The only problem that I agree with is that Israel wouldn’t accept it. It would need to be a secular government, accepting of Jews, Muslims, and Christians. But the whole idea of their state is based on Jewish power and being in that place specifically for religious reasons. Sharing power and land with the people who originally lived there basically goes against the idea of its founding. You’d need a US that’s focused on peace in the region over power projection and who knows if that will ever happen. We’d need someone like Bernie to get elected, and a Congress with the balls to threaten to withold aid to them.
Oh that’s awesome! I’ve also got a Kbin account so that’s good to know.
What about the decades before this where Israel had been killing people, imprisoning without charges, and forcing them off their land? When that’s added for context, Israel is the one who kicked this off.
Judging by all the threads I’ve seen recently about the decreasing active user base of Lemmy, there are lots of people who want more, too. I don’t think any project is going to make Lemmy as big as Twitter or Reddit immediately, so that seems like an unfounded fear. There’s a vast mid area between current Lemmy and peak Twitter, so it doesn’t hurt to at least raise the number of normies here so we can get threads about things other than tech and news. I want to see biologists giving their opinion on a discovered animal, or people who worked on a random movie chiming in with fun facts, the earthquake guy, or the astronomy person, etc.
The variety of people made Reddit fun.
That’s still useful. I found myself lurking a ton of subreddits recently looking for buildapcsales or laptopdeals. Then once I bought them I started lurking threads for people who had similar problems as me setting it up. I still find myself adding Reddit to the front of my Google searches when I want responses or reviews from real people about stuff. I even had to reinstall the Reddit app at some point to look at something, which was annoying, but I wanted the info. I wish I could do that with Lemmy instead.
Even if people aren’t helping op with their issue specifically (and it sounds like the fediverser person is working on fixing that), answering these questions is still helping everyone else who reads the question on this FOSS end of the internet.
I had no idea a 5’3" guy was ever on the NBA. That’s insane to me. And really inspirational in a way.
Holy shit that’s awesome. So that’s what the guy in Haikyuu would look like in real life (anime about volleyball where one of the protagonists is a short guy who makes up for it because he can run fast and jump real high).
Well that’s sad. But I suppose we’re still in the new, rough period of Lemmy. The Wild West of federated, private server owned link sharing discussion sites.
Probably but people who make their account on Lemmy.world, the most common instance, also never see them.
I was wondering what happened to lemmy.film.
One day I need to visit but I’m scared about not knowing French. I’ll need to practice a lot first. I also have no idea how to do the r’s lol.
I think they just got cocky being in control for so long, but the right wing have never been ones to let a good disaster go to waste.
You can put mods on the PS4?
Please no. Please no. Please no. Godamn it Biden labor secretary, please stop this shit.