I had some friction with Jessie to stretch and a little again from bookworm to Trixie. Nothing I couldn’t solve, but there are still a few edge cases that aren’t handled.

A minimum of 4 disks can be used with raidz2, but I understand if you want the stripe efficiency.

I believe the joke is that Nintendo are aggressively litigious.

Not really. We have had access to ml for a while and google used ml to blur license plates in streetview for a long time now. It’s just pattern recognition with reinforcement.

Neural learning has been around since 2004-ish.

it’s the future

No doubt about that. It’s been “the future” for more than a decade. But even 5 years ago, Wayland was a complete dumpster fire if you strayed outside average use. So yeah, I’ve heard this before.

Of course, I had to turn that protection off because Steam is still X and my controllers back paddles popped up a permission dialog

I understand that this is a real sticking point with some use cases, I hope this is resolved soon. I’m definitely fuzzy on the workings of portals, compositors, input, etc.

Am I doing a good job convincing you?

This is the overwhelming response to my questions about Wayland, and it’s weird. Wayland isn’t a fancy new car I need to use to stay relevant. I work in terminals and a browser, Xfce is fine.

As I mentioned in another response, I am not trying to use the newest coolest thing, I work every day in Linux and I need my setup to be stable and predictable.

And no one needs to convince me, when xfce is finally discontinued or unusable, I’ll have to find a similar Wayland alternative. Nothing compels me to switch yet.

I am not trying to suggest that the old way is better, we have needed to move on from x11 years ago.

That is a good point, fair enough. I don’t really need this, so it doesn’t cross my radar.

Thanks for the response!

it’s hard to imagine needing to explain why Wayland has been better

I don’t really understand what you mean here, sounds like you’re describing a vibe, but that’s valid.

I have a multi-monitor setup with xfce and while it’s nothing to write home about, it works. Of course, I don’t need HDR. I guess my use case isn’t very demanding that way.

I have a wayland/gnome tablet because touchscreen, and I don’t see an appreciable difference in startup time, bit I have no empirical data on this.

I appreciate your response.

I am happy that keyboard and other I/o are being treated as separate from a security perspective.

Xorg fans

I am not as impressed by this comment snippet.

I am not a “fan” of xorg, and you should absolutely stop looking at it this way. This isn’t a matter of having a favourite car manufacturer. I am not commenting to convince everyone that xorg is “better”.

I simply use xorg. I have work to do, I use Linux to do it. My most stable and predictable configuration is using xfce, it just stays out of the way. I don’t care about ricing. I don’t GAF about GPU accelerated terminal emulators, especially when they bonk trying to connect to Solaris tty. I don’t care about HDR. If you do care about these things, that’s great, I’m not trying to diminish that.

I have been using Linux for almost 30 years, professionally for almost 25. I have been through Mir. I have somehow made it through alsa transition to pulseaudio, which sucked. I have been through Unity, the ffmpeg debacle, systemd, ndis wrappers, netplan, etc. Some of these new tooling options are better than previous ones, some aren’t. They effectively get the job done, and that’s the bottom line.

Never in my Linux experience have I seen such a sudden push to not only move everyone to new tooling, but to cast everyone using the old tools as somehow “refusing to move on”, especially in the last 2 or 3 years.

There will come a time when you will see your current tooling will be left behind and you’ll be in my situation. Have some grace about it.

And stop calling me an xorg “fan”.

and with more features.

Look, if you’re gonna tell x11 folks to provide examples of how Wayland is not meeting their needs, you need to meet the same bar and give a few examples of what these features are.

This is honestly what is holding me back from going all in on wayland… I don’t see any benefit.

Typically this is achieved in x11 with x forwarding. Performance won’t be great.

However: you may want to investigate using a hypervisor and a VM for each seat, and a dedicated GPU for each seat. To share GPU between seats, you will need a GPU and motherboard that support sr-iov, which is hard to find, hard to use, and expensive.

I built a hyper-converged box like this and I can tell you the GPU isn’t the obstacle, it’s peripherals. Mice, keyboard, video output, that is what people want to be flexible.

I know. You can’t make this shit up.

I’m glad my poor old dad isn’t alive to see this.

Edit: I mean, I wish he weren’t dead, but this would upset him greatly.

I honestly love the two together, I think the original was enhanced by the prequel, which is a rare thing.

Story-wise, the transition is pretty well thought out and I think the prequel does a good job of honouring the 1982 story.

There is a 1 hour yt video out there covering the making of the prequel and it really drives home how much the director was steamrolled by the producers, especially on the CGI.

We are certain.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/us-nigeria-airstrike-christmas-day-9.7028229

Last shows how long the last user logged in has been logged in. So if your system routinely has multiple users logged in, this may not be a useful metric.

Vi is unintuitive and annoying to me.

Totally fair, I only learned because I was forced to.

Why wouldn’t it work over telnet when it works via SSH?

Serial consoles feed back information one line at a time, so no curses interfaces. No arrow keys, just hjkl. Anything that needs to count characters and columns (like position-based cursor editors like nano) won’t work over telnet.

in my console, or rather terminal

A serial console and a terminal aren’t the same thing.

If you like micro, use micro. I don’t care.

Yes, well CDE doesn’t enter into the equation over a minicom console. As I said, cua isn’t super useful in line-feed environments.

I haven’t seen CDE in over 20yrs.

Emacs is a stranger breed of ppl than vi users still… Kudos.

Well, I felt you were drawing relevance away from the initial intent of the quoted maxim. Regardless, looks like I might have overreacted. Let’s just chalk this up to internet comments.

Oh, my apologies.

I didn’t realize you were being intractable.

which I don’t need my three year computer science degree for.

vi really isn’t complex.

CUA editors

CUA editors work as long as there is grid display and ANSI input. They do not work in a line feed or console-line environment like telnet, console, etc., hence the need for hjkl movement.

Also CUA is an IBM initiative, it wasn’t followed everywhere.