Oh, it has been tried! For example, the Free People Territory in what is now Ukraine. Killed off by authoritarians pretending to be communists in the the USSR. Also, Neozapatistas in the Chiapas region. Cuba is doing a pretty fair shake at it, as well, and a lot of suffering there happening because of the myriad invasions, assassination attempts, and now economic embargo on them by the US. Rojava is doing a system that borrows a lot from communism (Democratic Confederalism).
So, since we’re doing economic death tolls: What is the death toll from just the US capitalist system? Like, 1 million dead during COVID, 40k per year from gatekeeping health care, how many died in Iraq? Afghanistan? How many indigenous people in the US have died from capitalism? I think just the last one puts the holocaust to shame…
Where has capitalism been tried that hasn’t resulted in massive death tolls?
So you are going to ignore all the examples you dont like and point to a small example of a not very successful island. There is far more capitalist countries doing better than Cuba. I’d rather 40k deaths from old age people not getting healthcare than have my government slaughter 10million civilians but whatever.
Stop with this dogshit point, its embarrassing and I know you can think of something better. 40k deaths each year for 30 years still wouldnt put it in the top 10 communist massacres.
Also you are comparing a random stat of healthcare deaths to government massacres. You dont want this comparison, communism has been responsible for the starvation of millions and wild guess but they werent providing healthcare either.
Stop with this dogshit point, its embarrassing and I know you can think of something better. 40k deaths each year for 30 years still wouldnt put it in the top 10 communist massacres.
I only picked a single segment of capitalism killing people. Want to go into the ecological damage and death tolls from that as well?
Also you are comparing a random stat of healthcare deaths to government massacres.
I thought we were talking about deaths caused by an economic system? Capitalism vs Communism, here?
I provided a single stat consisting of deaths caused by capitalism. We can break down more:
Deaths caused by imperialist conquests for resources, due to capitalism
Deaths cause by ecological damage caused by capitalism
There’s more, if you like.
You dont want this comparison, communism has been responsible for the starvation of millions and wild guess but they werent providing healthcare either.
So, we’re going to talk starvation deaths?
How many died in the past year in Palestine, due to capitalism, from starvation?
How many died world-wide, just from US capitalist policy, due to starvation?
How many genocides were committed by the US in just it’s first 70 years, due to capitalism?
Ironically, you completely fell into proving my point.
You mean, by supplying actual examples of when it was tried, and when it worked?
Somehow, I don’t think you’ll figure that out… Not today, maybe, but in the future, hopefully.
Someday, you’ll figure out that capitalism is basically just “Might equals right”. Not today, by in the future, maybe. I don’t hold out much hope, though.
Good job. Your input has been more noted in the abdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz parts you have paid no attention to, else you’d have never typed a thing. Had you paid any attention, you’d have realised you’re doing exactly what is being discussed.
Ironically, you completely fell into proving my point.
You mean, by supplying actual examples of when it was tried, and when it worked?
Whatever scratches your itch.
And, please, don’t talk to me like some proponent of capitalism when I just said all social ideologies are failures against human nature. Pay some respect and read what people are saying before you insist on yourself.
Oh, it has been tried! For example, the Free People Territory in what is now Ukraine. Killed off by authoritarians pretending to be communists in the the USSR. Also, Neozapatistas in the Chiapas region. Cuba is doing a pretty fair shake at it, as well, and a lot of suffering there happening because of the myriad invasions, assassination attempts, and now economic embargo on them by the US. Rojava is doing a system that borrows a lot from communism (Democratic Confederalism).
So, since we’re doing economic death tolls: What is the death toll from just the US capitalist system? Like, 1 million dead during COVID, 40k per year from gatekeeping health care, how many died in Iraq? Afghanistan? How many indigenous people in the US have died from capitalism? I think just the last one puts the holocaust to shame…
Where has capitalism been tried that hasn’t resulted in massive death tolls?
So you are going to ignore all the examples you dont like and point to a small example of a not very successful island. There is far more capitalist countries doing better than Cuba. I’d rather 40k deaths from old age people not getting healthcare than have my government slaughter 10million civilians but whatever.
40k even year, for 30 years equals?
And not even counting the death toll-free wars of imperialism, food shortage, etc etc.
Capitalism has kill more than 10 million civilians, by magnitude.
I see you also ignored all examples, except for one.
And Cuba… how well would they be faring had they NOT been under a trade embargo for 50 years now?
Stop with this dogshit point, its embarrassing and I know you can think of something better. 40k deaths each year for 30 years still wouldnt put it in the top 10 communist massacres.
Also you are comparing a random stat of healthcare deaths to government massacres. You dont want this comparison, communism has been responsible for the starvation of millions and wild guess but they werent providing healthcare either.
I only picked a single segment of capitalism killing people. Want to go into the ecological damage and death tolls from that as well?
I thought we were talking about deaths caused by an economic system? Capitalism vs Communism, here?
I provided a single stat consisting of deaths caused by capitalism. We can break down more:
There’s more, if you like.
So, we’re going to talk starvation deaths?
How many died in the past year in Palestine, due to capitalism, from starvation?
How many died world-wide, just from US capitalist policy, due to starvation?
How many genocides were committed by the US in just it’s first 70 years, due to capitalism?
Capitalism is far from a bloodless system…
9 million this year alone, from just starvation, due to capitalism: https://philosophics.blog/2024/10/13/excess-deaths-attributable-to-capitalism/
Ironically, you completely fell into proving my point.
Somehow, I don’t think you’ll figure that out… Not today, maybe, but in the future, hopefully.
You mean, by supplying actual examples of when it was tried, and when it worked?
Someday, you’ll figure out that capitalism is basically just “Might equals right”. Not today, by in the future, maybe. I don’t hold out much hope, though.
Here’s the discussion you have involved yourself in on…
Here’s where communism is mentioned
Good job. Your input has been more noted in the abdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz parts you have paid no attention to, else you’d have never typed a thing. Had you paid any attention, you’d have realised you’re doing exactly what is being discussed.
Whatever scratches your itch.
And, please, don’t talk to me like some proponent of capitalism when I just said all social ideologies are failures against human nature. Pay some respect and read what people are saying before you insist on yourself.