I went back to Win10 at work because file explorer on Win11 was unusable. I’m not waiting a half second every single time I enter a subfolder.
and even worse in a OneDrive directory, often a full two seconds
that wasn’t the only issue, but it legitimately prevented me from being able to do my job, because I needed to be able to multitask on several projects at once. what used to be a two minute turnaround on a question somebody would ask me became hours, simply because I could not navigate to a directory in fifteen seconds and check a file quickly. and oh god the file explorer crashes
unfortunately I still deal with a bunch of that on Win10 now, because they somehow introduced that behaviour with greater frequency into Win10 in the past year
It’s amazing how a second or 5 at so many levels causes micro-frustration. And it builds up, too.
I admit I lose just a bit of my shit when the neu web-service web-apps get sluggish, which seems to be very often. Those of us who remember the halcyon days where things were responsive on a pentium know better than to accept the current mess.
My tolerance for the poor performance and saas-linked core services is rapidly waning.
The scariest part is how the general population just accepts how bad Windows is, because they don’t have a concept of what a decent piece of software looks like. They just assume that they hate computers but are simply forced to tolerate it to do their job.
Too sad that alternatives like Thunderbird doesnt have anything like automated rules or quicksteps.
Uhhhh automated rules (called filters) are literally built in and go far more in-depth than outlook ever did. Quick steps I believe would require a plugin though
To those filters act on incoming emails?
If I open Outlook at work, the newsletters I monitor get automatically sorted to the appropriate folder and don’t require any interaction.
Yes they do! For example, here’s a single rule I have setup which moves all of the various emails from ecommerce sites into a dedicated folder so they don’t clutter my inbox
On Outlook each of those line items within my “online shopping” rule would have to be an individual rule, making my outbook rules far more cluttered and difficult to maintain. Thunderbird also lets you do partial matches, so places like LinkedIn and Indeed who send emails from lots of different addresses can be covered on a single “from” line whereas Outlook would require a dedicated rule for each of those addresses and you’d have to keep creating rules as the sites keep spinning up new emails.
Thunderbird also has a surprisingly good junkmail algorithm in place. It requires some training by marking junk emails as junk and unmarking legitimate emails, but once its trained it works really well
Oh yeah it also does this awesome conversation threading now automatically, and honestly the overall views showing the big list of messages is super good with lots of useful info at a glance and far less digging through conversation history to find a specific email. Honestly I’d hazard to say Thunderbird has a better interface than Outlook now.
But that’s such a stupid name. At least I wouldnt call it a “Filter” rule and more of a sorting rule.
Well guess that’s why I didnt havent found it earlier ;)
Lol no arch for me just yet and esp no beta arch lmao. I’m working through my computers and devices at the moment. I have liked Zorin so far and have it on two laptops. I also swapped a fire tablet to lineage last week and I just replaced my phone and got a pixel and installed Graphene as well. I’m getting there. Just have my last laptop and my desktop to migrate. I’m putting off my desktop until I can migrate off a couple services. Also because I know it’ll be a major biiiiiitch. I have so many tools lol
Oh my goodness, …sorry if I sound negative, but, …that looks very tag-spammy for Lemmy. I was shocked, haha!
Regardless though, Mastodon user, welcome! Welcome to Lemmy, too!
Could be, my kids have identical pc’s, but the disks are different. One has a slower ssd and its symptoms are exactly how you described, I knew it was slower but it’s all I had around. Both pc’s have SATA ssds. We’re saving for new disks, which I’m sure will alleviate the symptoms.
At work a similar problem with Windows server. The hosting company changed the IO tier and like snow these issues disappeared. Clicking start and waiting for it to open would take a minute, completely unacceptable, but ultimately fixed by having faster storage.
I’m not saying Microsoft is doing good work, I’m suggesting a workaround until they do, which we both know is very probably never.
They already pushed out older hardware with Windows 11, they won’t care about slower storage options.
I have a computer at work that has like 10 phones plugged into it. Opening “this PC” part of file explorer freezes it for about 5-10 minutes. It’s a very fun issue when I forget about. Normally I just avoid that screen.
That said, did they fix the issue where explorer (with the desktop) would just randomly crash for no reason? I’ve worked in IT for 3 months and it was a frequent issue.
I had this just last night and didn’t realise. Everything else was working fine, but then I glanced at my phone and realised that it was 2 hours later than the computer was showing.
Why does File Explorer freeze just because I opened it?!?
Every time???
How do they mess this up so bad?
They made their devs use copilot.
Yep. Vibe coding. Replacing knowledge and experience with hallucinations since 2025.
After firing everyone who knew anything about how the code worked.
I went back to Win10 at work because file explorer on Win11 was unusable. I’m not waiting a half second every single time I enter a subfolder.
and even worse in a OneDrive directory, often a full two seconds
that wasn’t the only issue, but it legitimately prevented me from being able to do my job, because I needed to be able to multitask on several projects at once. what used to be a two minute turnaround on a question somebody would ask me became hours, simply because I could not navigate to a directory in fifteen seconds and check a file quickly. and oh god the file explorer crashes
unfortunately I still deal with a bunch of that on Win10 now, because they somehow introduced that behaviour with greater frequency into Win10 in the past year
It’s amazing how a second or 5 at so many levels causes micro-frustration. And it builds up, too.
I admit I lose just a bit of my shit when the neu web-service web-apps get sluggish, which seems to be very often. Those of us who remember the halcyon days where things were responsive on a pentium know better than to accept the current mess.
My tolerance for the poor performance and saas-linked core services is rapidly waning.
The scariest part is how the general population just accepts how bad Windows is, because they don’t have a concept of what a decent piece of software looks like. They just assume that they hate computers but are simply forced to tolerate it to do their job.
File explorer has always been a weak point in Windows, it just got better in the later versions. Which speaks volumes about this OS too.
There’s a third party file explorer that works amazingly and it’s super fast. It’s freeware while in beta: https://filepilot.tech/
If a single guy can do it, why can’t Microsoft?
https://www.voidtools.com/
You might be interested in this tool
everything + qttabbar are what make work possible for me
without them, I’d be so inefficient. idk how my coworkers manage without. well, I do, they’re slow af sometimes
The funny thing is that both Outlook and OneDrive work way better on the Mac.
I just wish they were available for Linux.
On Linux there is “onedriver”, a 3rd party onedrive client. Works great, but iirc not with sharepoint shares linked in your onedrive folder.
https://github.com/jstaf/onedriver
Too sad that alternatives like Thunderbird doesnt have anything like automated rules or quicksteps.
I thought those linux guys were all about automating the shit out of their desktop???
Uhhhh automated rules (called filters) are literally built in and go far more in-depth than outlook ever did. Quick steps I believe would require a plugin though
Here’s a support article even: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/organize-your-messages-using-filters
To those filters act on incoming emails?
If I open Outlook at work, the newsletters I monitor get automatically sorted to the appropriate folder and don’t require any interaction.
Yes they do! For example, here’s a single rule I have setup which moves all of the various emails from ecommerce sites into a dedicated folder so they don’t clutter my inbox
On Outlook each of those line items within my “online shopping” rule would have to be an individual rule, making my outbook rules far more cluttered and difficult to maintain. Thunderbird also lets you do partial matches, so places like LinkedIn and Indeed who send emails from lots of different addresses can be covered on a single “from” line whereas Outlook would require a dedicated rule for each of those addresses and you’d have to keep creating rules as the sites keep spinning up new emails.
Thunderbird also has a surprisingly good junkmail algorithm in place. It requires some training by marking junk emails as junk and unmarking legitimate emails, but once its trained it works really well
Oh yeah it also does this awesome conversation threading now automatically, and honestly the overall views showing the big list of messages is super good with lots of useful info at a glance and far less digging through conversation history to find a specific email. Honestly I’d hazard to say Thunderbird has a better interface than Outlook now.
Good to know and appreciated.
But that’s such a stupid name. At least I wouldnt call it a “Filter” rule and more of a sorting rule.
Well guess that’s why I
didnthavent found it earlier ;)I’m so glad I blocked all the updates from MS on mydesktopm. It’s a nice stop gap until I get moved to linux
@JigglySackles @mrgoosmoos if you want beta versions you can use #arch #linux XD
Lol no arch for me just yet and esp no beta arch lmao. I’m working through my computers and devices at the moment. I have liked Zorin so far and have it on two laptops. I also swapped a fire tablet to lineage last week and I just replaced my phone and got a pixel and installed Graphene as well. I’m getting there. Just have my last laptop and my desktop to migrate. I’m putting off my desktop until I can migrate off a couple services. Also because I know it’ll be a major biiiiiitch. I have so many tools lol
@JigglySackles used to have #apple #mac but now only 1 imac for music and basic video editing (currently collecting dust)
It’s really frustrating to me how enmeshed the big three are in our daily lives. And how difficult it can be to fully cleave from them.
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Oh my goodness, …sorry if I sound negative, but, …that looks very tag-spammy for Lemmy. I was shocked, haha!
Regardless though, Mastodon user, welcome! Welcome to Lemmy, too!
I have that problem on my son’s pc. It’s definitely an io issue. A faster disk would solve the problem.
So would a working OS.
Slow disk is not the problem.
Maybe a factor, but it is not a problem.
lol that’s not the issue here
that can give you the same symptoms, but the tiniest bit of troubleshooting proves that that is not the scenario I have
Could be, my kids have identical pc’s, but the disks are different. One has a slower ssd and its symptoms are exactly how you described, I knew it was slower but it’s all I had around. Both pc’s have SATA ssds. We’re saving for new disks, which I’m sure will alleviate the symptoms.
At work a similar problem with Windows server. The hosting company changed the IO tier and like snow these issues disappeared. Clicking start and waiting for it to open would take a minute, completely unacceptable, but ultimately fixed by having faster storage.
I’m not saying Microsoft is doing good work, I’m suggesting a workaround until they do, which we both know is very probably never.
They already pushed out older hardware with Windows 11, they won’t care about slower storage options.
Do you have disconnected network drives or slow to spin-up?
Because that froze mine on the regular.
I have a computer at work that has like 10 phones plugged into it. Opening “this PC” part of file explorer freezes it for about 5-10 minutes. It’s a very fun issue when I forget about. Normally I just avoid that screen.
It’s a fun bug.
That said, did they fix the issue where explorer (with the desktop) would just randomly crash for no reason? I’ve worked in IT for 3 months and it was a frequent issue.
I had this just last night and didn’t realise. Everything else was working fine, but then I glanced at my phone and realised that it was 2 hours later than the computer was showing.
Because you opened it in Windows 🤣