Sure, we have open source, federated replacements for Instagram, Tiktok, and YouTube. How do we get creators to use this stuff? One consideration involves the ability to pay for things.

I’ve been thinking a lot recently about PeerTube, Loops, Bandwagon, and other platforms in the Fediverse that are geared around artists. I might get flamed for this, and you’re welcome to disagree, but I think the network is in dire need of having support for commerce.

Not “Big Capitalism” commerce, but the ability for people to buy and sell things, support projects, and commission their favorite creators to keep making more stuff.

  • 0xtero@beehaw.org
    6·
    2 days ago

    Surely the ability to pay for things exists already in many forms/platforms.

    But one thing that’s missing is central financing from the platform itself. The “big tech” is running wild with advertising money and this is what fuels the rapid growth.

    Things like Nebula seem to work (creator owned business that offers paid subscriptions), but I’m not sure how many Nebula-exclusive creators there are, I have a feeling most of them publish stuff on YouTube as well.

    Mastodon and Lemmy communities work on donations, but most of them just trundle along barely covering hosting costs.

    I guess, in theory, it would be possible to create a PeerTube/Loops server that monetizes everything with ads, but I’m a bit skeptical of that unless you have very deep start-up VC money behind you to get you off the ground.

    We’ve had micropayment/-donation sites like Flattr, but it never took off for real.

    I think the core problem is trying to make people to pay for the content/service/membership. Most don’t. I don’t think that would change even if the option was integrated into platforms.

    • Nutomic@lemmy.ml
      2·
      13 hours ago

      Ads dont really work with federation, because you could simply access the content from another instance which doesnt have ads. Even if ads are directly encoded in the video file, it wouldnt be so hard to add something like sponsorblock to a Peertube instance.

      It seems to me that our only chance is to wait for commercial platforms to enshittify and destroy themselves, because we can never compete with the amount of money and resources they have available.

      • 0xtero@beehaw.org
        1·
        17 hours ago

        I know. I meant it as a potential model for income (a platform owned by creators collective), it was just an example