In my honest opinion as someone that had played and enjoyed both games, they both deserved the awards in their own ways. I think Kingdom Come is definitely a better RPG in general, but at the same time E33 is an amazing game that is an RPG. It’s semantics at this point and I think it’s more of a lack of categories. RPG is such a loose term these days that I feel like it should be sub-divided into a few more. Lumping games together and comparing games that are vastly different based solely on a loose term like RPG is disingenuous.
That’s because Clair Obscur is directly influenced by the JRPG genre which is why it feels almost like not a RPG compared to something that is a western RPG like KC:D2.
But I agree, the term RPG is way overloaded and it needs a more stricter set of rules to define what a RPG is. But it’s been that way for almost a decade at this point and I no longer care to split hairs about it, I just laugh when Monster Hunter gets nominated as an RPG because in my mind I would never consider it a RPG.
I know It’s just that the term has gotten even more overloaded and vague over time. At least in the 90s you could somewhat draw a really squiggly line where RPG-s had skills and classes and stats-boosting items and xp and all that jazz, and non-rpg games didn’t really have that. But 00s has some games implementing RPG elements into itself and it kicked into full gear in the 10s with AAA non-RPG games adopting xp, levels, skills, stat sticks etc and most AAA RPG-s simplifying by dropping classes and such. Whatever thin line there was in the 90s has been completely eroded in the 10s. If someone wants to call Horizon Forgotten West an RPG I can’t really say it’s not
Couldn’t agree more.
E33 isn’t a RPG in the classical sense but has certain RPG elements. Don’t get me wrong, it is, as far is I’ve played, a great game in it’s own right, but imo it didn’t deserve to win in the RPG category and maybe not even storytelling.
In my honest opinion as someone that had played and enjoyed both games, they both deserved the awards in their own ways. I think Kingdom Come is definitely a better RPG in general, but at the same time E33 is an amazing game that is an RPG. It’s semantics at this point and I think it’s more of a lack of categories. RPG is such a loose term these days that I feel like it should be sub-divided into a few more. Lumping games together and comparing games that are vastly different based solely on a loose term like RPG is disingenuous.
That’s because Clair Obscur is directly influenced by the JRPG genre which is why it feels almost like not a RPG compared to something that is a western RPG like KC:D2.
But I agree, the term RPG is way overloaded and it needs a more stricter set of rules to define what a RPG is. But it’s been that way for almost a decade at this point and I no longer care to split hairs about it, I just laugh when Monster Hunter gets nominated as an RPG because in my mind I would never consider it a RPG.
Haha, us old farts have been arguing about what constitutes an RPG at least since the days of the first Diablo.
I know It’s just that the term has gotten even more overloaded and vague over time. At least in the 90s you could somewhat draw a really squiggly line where RPG-s had skills and classes and stats-boosting items and xp and all that jazz, and non-rpg games didn’t really have that. But 00s has some games implementing RPG elements into itself and it kicked into full gear in the 10s with AAA non-RPG games adopting xp, levels, skills, stat sticks etc and most AAA RPG-s simplifying by dropping classes and such. Whatever thin line there was in the 90s has been completely eroded in the 10s. If someone wants to call Horizon Forgotten West an RPG I can’t really say it’s not
Couldn’t agree more. E33 isn’t a RPG in the classical sense but has certain RPG elements. Don’t get me wrong, it is, as far is I’ve played, a great game in it’s own right, but imo it didn’t deserve to win in the RPG category and maybe not even storytelling.