We have a problem since the new upgrade. "10.000-message limit reached. Messages sent before 26. September 2025 are hidden -Restore Access" appeared. so the messages before that date can not be acc...
Mattermost user here, I self-host an instance for friends and family (and their children).
To upgrade and discover I’d lost access to the message history on my own instance was infuriating. I’m investigating alternatives right now.
So far Zulip seems reasonable - although Google and especially Apple being shits about push notifications means you can’t self-host push notification servers 🙄 So I’m considering forgoing push notifications altogether and leaning on email notifications instead.
the open source notification stack is forming around UnifiedPush and ntfy.sh. multiple things use it already: matrix server+clients, molly for signal with mollysocket, DavX5, ironwolf, … best part you can easily use it for your own purposes too. for me it’s working reliably.
you could check if zulip has a unifiedpush connector. or if it doesn’t, you coud follow what mollysocket does and write one that presents itself to the server as a client
Depending on the group using it, you can apply for a Community plan to enable mobile push notifications. I do wish Zulip would use UnifiedPush or something like that, or even allow your own ntfy setup, but I’m placated by the Community plan.
Have you explored what it takes to self-host a notification server? I explored Zulip, and it looks similar, but I haven’t explored the notification server yet.
That may work for a family, but won’t work for a smart company that uses chat occasionally. We’re having like three managers who’d use the chat all the time, while the rest of the company may send 10 messages a month. Company subscription price would be an absurd one for that situation. We’re able to self-host any chat solution, yet I’m not sure which one. It looks like none fits the criteria, with the exception of Matrix perhaps. But I haven’t hosted it myself yet, and it looks like they’re looking for ways to motivate self-hosters just not do that.
Mattermost user here, I self-host an instance for friends and family (and their children).
To upgrade and discover I’d lost access to the message history on my own instance was infuriating. I’m investigating alternatives right now.
So far Zulip seems reasonable - although Google and especially Apple being shits about push notifications means you can’t self-host push notification servers 🙄 So I’m considering forgoing push notifications altogether and leaning on email notifications instead.
the open source notification stack is forming around UnifiedPush and ntfy.sh. multiple things use it already: matrix server+clients, molly for signal with mollysocket, DavX5, ironwolf, … best part you can easily use it for your own purposes too. for me it’s working reliably.
you could check if zulip has a unifiedpush connector. or if it doesn’t, you coud follow what mollysocket does and write one that presents itself to the server as a client
Were you using the enterprise install without a license or team edition install? I’m on team edition and haven’t upgraded to v11 yet.
Depending on the group using it, you can apply for a Community plan to enable mobile push notifications. I do wish Zulip would use UnifiedPush or something like that, or even allow your own ntfy setup, but I’m placated by the Community plan.
Have you explored what it takes to self-host a notification server? I explored Zulip, and it looks similar, but I haven’t explored the notification server yet.
Zulip paywalls mobile notifications, but you can apply for a Community subscription which is free, and includes mobile notifications.
That may work for a family, but won’t work for a smart company that uses chat occasionally. We’re having like three managers who’d use the chat all the time, while the rest of the company may send 10 messages a month. Company subscription price would be an absurd one for that situation. We’re able to self-host any chat solution, yet I’m not sure which one. It looks like none fits the criteria, with the exception of Matrix perhaps. But I haven’t hosted it myself yet, and it looks like they’re looking for ways to motivate self-hosters just not do that.