• Deceptichum@quokk.auOP
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    19 hours ago

    Women do have it much worse than men today. And I say this as a man, we hold so much privilege compared to any one else it’s not funny.

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      5 hours ago

      Not really. There’s many areas that women do have it better. Sociologist have started to label it even. They’re called the lost boys. A generation of boys who for one reason or another have failed to move onto post secondary education. Education in our society is something that increases our chances of success in life. But right now post education is filled with women. They believe the push to get women in schools was successful but nobody put the same effort into the boys. STEM careers and other post secondary streams were advertised to women and the boys were forgotten. Can’t tell me that those boys are not now feeling that pressure with having reduced social and capital mobility as a whole. It’s just one example of how women do not have it “much worse” today then men.

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      19 hours ago

      So then he is misinformed, which many people are. I don’t put someone into the “enemy” box for being misinformed or stubborn, that’s pretty much the default state of most humans.

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        19 hours ago

        When you combine ignorance with combativeness you are a roadblock that needs to go.

        If he was simply uninformed and sough to learn, he wouldn’t trying to make himself to be a victim to ‘win’ an argument in his head. This is reactionary behaviour, and reactionaries are the enemy.

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          18 hours ago

          I just don’t know what to say because I was that person before. A lot of people men especially are extremely pigheaded and argumentative, and you can be justifiably upset at them. If your goal is to help women and further feminism though, even a “correct” gotcha like this makes people less receptive to feminism. It’s just making enemies out of people who might be wrong, stubborn, and combative, which unfortunately is basically everyone at some point in their life.

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            11 hours ago

            Being confronted and having to think about or explain your bigotry is the only way they can learn.

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              In my opinion, shaming people for bigoted opinions can be effective and even necessary at times, but only serves to change people’s behavior.

              I’ve found that the main thing that changes people’s thoughts or values are measured explanations or evidence to the contrary.

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        14 hours ago

        “News flash, women have it faaaaaaaaar better than men.” - Galactose@sopuli.xyz

        Going to leave this here for posterity in case you try to edit this comment too.

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          13 hours ago

          What makes you think me deleting my post meant anything ?? I want to save server space, but hey thanks for proving how much of a raging rage-baiter you are.

          Correction: you are a misandrist, not a rage-baiter