Fucking hell dude. The fact that you frame it in terms of going on sale is absolutely insane. The marketers have turned your brain to absolute mush. You could have said “it’s too expensive” but no, you won’t buy it because it’s never on sale. You don’t care how fun it will be and whether it’s worth the cost, only that the current price will never be arbitrarily less than some earlier price.
It is more anti-customer to hold your price at a certain level and offer discounts so you both:
get to charge above what most people think is a fair price to suckers who don’t pay attention to sales
sell to people who think a lower amount is all the game is worth
sell to people who others are not likely to even buy the game because they see a “great deal” and don’t want to miss out.
Your position seems to be based on two things:
“Everyone” else does it this way, so any developer who doesn’t must be an asshole, so you won’t buy the game
Old games need to be available for a lower price
1 is obviously wrong. It doesn’t matter what other studios do except that their marketing as so cooked your brain you can’t see any alternative.
Is reasonable but you know, I’d sure prefer that old games just reduced their price, you know, like they used to instead of perpetual sales you have to watch out for.
Factorio is 5 and a half years old and costs £30. In that time it has had a number of major updates, and players typically play it for hundreds or thousands of hours, and it is rated extremely highly. Evaluate it on that basis rather than on some utterly irrational standard that has literally nothing to do with what you actually pay or how much fun you actually might have.
You haven’t even bothered to write any text to try and defend this absurd, idiotic idea that the two choices available are “sales” or “full price forever”.
Your “point” is not fucking true. Games can (and routinely used to) permanently discount their RRP as they got older.
They only stopped doing that because temporary discounts make more money. It works so well that they’ve conned you into believing that doing so is the only possibility, and pro-consumer.
Your excuses for not reading do explain why you’re like this.
Boy is this a take and a half. So instead of asking a price they think is fair, they should ask more, and arbitrarily reduce that on occasion to manipulate you into buying the product through FOMO, and that’s consumer friendly?
It seems to me that, if you’re not willing to read their reasoning for it, not willing to pirate it, not willing to play the free demo, then you’re not actually interested in playing Factorio. You’re just here to start shit.
Please don’t ascribe emotions to me, as I don’t ascribe emotions to you. I do not foam at the mouth over anything EA says because I don’t listen to or care about what EA says; I don’t play EA games.
Just as a bit of a sanity check for both of us, can you tell me what Wube’s reasoning is?
Thank you for beeing the voice of reason. Factorio have just improved and improved over the years. A game that have been neglected for a decade needs sales ofcourse. Factorio is not that.
I do not know how, but factorio is better value for money then all the gratis games i have on steam.
Absolutely. I first got Factorio in the high seas and played it quite a while like that. Eventually I realized it was definitely worth the money and bought it. It’s great value for the money and it’s not expensive at all.
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Fucking hell dude. The fact that you frame it in terms of going on sale is absolutely insane. The marketers have turned your brain to absolute mush. You could have said “it’s too expensive” but no, you won’t buy it because it’s never on sale. You don’t care how fun it will be and whether it’s worth the cost, only that the current price will never be arbitrarily less than some earlier price.
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It is more anti-customer to hold your price at a certain level and offer discounts so you both:
Your position seems to be based on two things:
1 is obviously wrong. It doesn’t matter what other studios do except that their marketing as so cooked your brain you can’t see any alternative.
Factorio is 5 and a half years old and costs £30. In that time it has had a number of major updates, and players typically play it for hundreds or thousands of hours, and it is rated extremely highly. Evaluate it on that basis rather than on some utterly irrational standard that has literally nothing to do with what you actually pay or how much fun you actually might have.
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You haven’t even bothered to write any text to try and defend this absurd, idiotic idea that the two choices available are “sales” or “full price forever”.
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Your “point” is not fucking true. Games can (and routinely used to) permanently discount their RRP as they got older.
They only stopped doing that because temporary discounts make more money. It works so well that they’ve conned you into believing that doing so is the only possibility, and pro-consumer.
Your excuses for not reading do explain why you’re like this.
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Boy is this a take and a half. So instead of asking a price they think is fair, they should ask more, and arbitrarily reduce that on occasion to manipulate you into buying the product through FOMO, and that’s consumer friendly?
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You know they wrote like a whole article about why they don’t put it on sale and it’s not about it being ‘beneath’ them?
You know they’ve gone on record and encouraged piracy, and they have a free demo if you’re still not convinced to just try it?
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It’s worth it without a sale too. Mostly, because if you allow it to, it will make sure you will never need to buy another game again.
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You can, of course, take cheap games over an exceptionally good game. That’s your choice. Just don’t expect a lot of people agreeing with that choice.
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It seems to me that, if you’re not willing to read their reasoning for it, not willing to pirate it, not willing to play the free demo, then you’re not actually interested in playing Factorio. You’re just here to start shit.
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Please don’t ascribe emotions to me, as I don’t ascribe emotions to you. I do not foam at the mouth over anything EA says because I don’t listen to or care about what EA says; I don’t play EA games.
Just as a bit of a sanity check for both of us, can you tell me what Wube’s reasoning is?
Thank you for beeing the voice of reason. Factorio have just improved and improved over the years. A game that have been neglected for a decade needs sales ofcourse. Factorio is not that.
I do not know how, but factorio is better value for money then all the gratis games i have on steam.
Absolutely. I first got Factorio in the high seas and played it quite a while like that. Eventually I realized it was definitely worth the money and bought it. It’s great value for the money and it’s not expensive at all.
“Time is money” applies to games too. A game that’s wasting your time is still not good value, even if it’s free.
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