Oh I’m sure there was valid critique, but at the time it was completely hidden under a pile of made-up conspiracy bullshit about red hat being the devil or so, or plain wrong assertions like “it’s monolithic” or “it forces you to use binary logging”.
If the debate would have been about technical merits, maybe one of the other init systems would have won by being slightly better, but systemd’s detractors prevented that really well by making the public “debate” a compete farce.
Wayland has to overcome more real problems than systemd (because X11 was a giant monolith of compatibility hacks that everybody used, as opposed to a hundred piles of messy shell scripts that was SYSV init). But it has no alternatives that could possibly have more technical merit; I can’t even remember the thing Ubuntu announced for a hot minute.
it was completely hidden under a pile of made-up conspiracy bullshit
This is basically bullshit. I mean for ANY given thing you can imagine existing there is 5 weirdos on facebook somewhere but the substance and prevailing bitch fest as expressed by 99% of people bitching was perfectly comprehensible normal shit that you are completely retconning.
Not in my experience. Granted that was mostly Reddit, but I often read entire threads about this, with almost nobody coming up with reasonable criticism.
I guess that was different on moderated bug trackers and so on?
Some people just can’t find a better hill to die on it seems.
Maybe also some undead refugees from the “systemd hate” hill or something.
It’s not like anyone had legit critique which online weirdos reframe as irrational
Oh I’m sure there was valid critique, but at the time it was completely hidden under a pile of made-up conspiracy bullshit about red hat being the devil or so, or plain wrong assertions like “it’s monolithic” or “it forces you to use binary logging”.
If the debate would have been about technical merits, maybe one of the other init systems would have won by being slightly better, but systemd’s detractors prevented that really well by making the public “debate” a compete farce.
Wayland has to overcome more real problems than systemd (because X11 was a giant monolith of compatibility hacks that everybody used, as opposed to a hundred piles of messy shell scripts that was SYSV init). But it has no alternatives that could possibly have more technical merit; I can’t even remember the thing Ubuntu announced for a hot minute.
This is basically bullshit. I mean for ANY given thing you can imagine existing there is 5 weirdos on facebook somewhere but the substance and prevailing bitch fest as expressed by 99% of people bitching was perfectly comprehensible normal shit that you are completely retconning.
Not in my experience. Granted that was mostly Reddit, but I often read entire threads about this, with almost nobody coming up with reasonable criticism.
I guess that was different on moderated bug trackers and so on?