In short, they were having trouble maintaining their moderation standards. In an incredibly short-sighted move, they’ve split the lemmyverse… offloading the costs of their moderation choices to the rest of us who now have to deal with incredibly confusing asymmetrical replication.
They’ve called this move temporary, but there’s no schedule for restoring federation and no set list of criteria for what will enable that to happen. I would say it’s more “open-ended” in that they haven’t committed to defederating forever, but there’s no useful limit on the duration of the defederation either.
This sounds incredibly dumb. The nice thing about the feddyverse is that you can receive content from other servers and comment on it imho. Very disappointing.
Personally, while i think it’s not the best solution…they don’t owe us an audience or a megaphone. If they owe anyone anything, it’s their own users. If they’re overwhelmed, and i totally believe that they are, they should do what they have to in order to deal with it
They didn’t close signups. They, as a top-five instance, defederated with two other top-5 instances, which will now lead to massive ongoing confusion related to asymmetrical federation. Did you read the second link from my comment?
The defederation will:
Increase the workload of admins on other major instances, who now have to moderate these high emotion threads and figure out how to respond to the defederation at a time when they are equally overloaded.
Increase the workload of volunteers who answer new user questions, as there will now be an ongoing flood of confusion around asymmetrical federation.
Sunder established communities that people outside Beehaw have invested in, many of which will now once again struggle to find the “critical mass” re-establish themselves.
Reduce confidence in the lemmyverse in general, as one of the formative experiences of new users will be this confusing mess of trying to re-establish their subs after having just gotten settled.
The external costs of flip-flopping the federation status between major instances is huge, and will be primarily born outside of Beehaw. If Beehaw admins want to have a very strict moderation policy, that’s entirely their option. If the costs of those moderation policies spiral out of control, that’s also entirely their problem. If they try to solve that problem by swinging a giant banhammer around at 30 thousand lemmings representing more than 30% of the active lemmyverse… that’s using your power as a major instance admin to make your own life easier and the lives of everyone else in the lemmyverse worse.
lemmy.worldandsh.itjust.worksusers: https://lemmy.world/post/149743.In short, they were having trouble maintaining their moderation standards. In an incredibly short-sighted move, they’ve split the lemmyverse… offloading the costs of their moderation choices to the rest of us who now have to deal with incredibly confusing asymmetrical replication.
They’ve called this move temporary, but there’s no schedule for restoring federation and no set list of criteria for what will enable that to happen. I would say it’s more “open-ended” in that they haven’t committed to defederating forever, but there’s no useful limit on the duration of the defederation either.
This sounds incredibly dumb. The nice thing about the feddyverse is that you can receive content from other servers and comment on it imho. Very disappointing.
Personally, while i think it’s not the best solution…they don’t owe us an audience or a megaphone. If they owe anyone anything, it’s their own users. If they’re overwhelmed, and i totally believe that they are, they should do what they have to in order to deal with it
How are the offloading moderation to others? Closing signups to avoid spam etc seems pretty useful
They didn’t close signups. They, as a top-five instance, defederated with two other top-5 instances, which will now lead to massive ongoing confusion related to asymmetrical federation. Did you read the second link from my comment?
The defederation will:
The external costs of flip-flopping the federation status between major instances is huge, and will be primarily born outside of Beehaw. If Beehaw admins want to have a very strict moderation policy, that’s entirely their option. If the costs of those moderation policies spiral out of control, that’s also entirely their problem. If they try to solve that problem by swinging a giant banhammer around at 30 thousand lemmings representing more than 30% of the active lemmyverse… that’s using your power as a major instance admin to make your own life easier and the lives of everyone else in the lemmyverse worse.