There’s probably multiple. Or at least there’s multiple interpretations of it.
I remember reading that bit.
But even if that’s the actual version, this painting just assumes you down near the people you’re wanting to see. Even though those groups would likely have mutually exclusive members? Does everybody get split into though copies to be everywhere they need to be at once?
There’s so much unanswered lore specifics. Revelation was the first part I stopped believing in.
It just seems like whoever wrote it (I think it’s supposed to be John, but those people still think Moses was a real person, so who knows) had dropped too much acid like 10 hours before and was having a really bad comedown phase. None of it is coherent at all.
And the fact that Trump is by far the closest any human has come to being the actual antichrist while they all just follow blindly is the most depressing humor around.
Any other tiny sleight they will call out preemptively (thinking of late 90s/early 00s satanic panic stuff, like Pokémon is evil because it’s made by a company called Wizards of the Coast, and they also make a game called Magic!), but actual Hitler Jr? Nah, they love him to death.
There’s so much unanswered lore specifics. Revelation was the first part I stopped believing in.
Well here’s what christianity says to that: If the Bible doesn’t tell you about 1 specific topic, it’s not important to your redemption. God reserves the right to keep mysteries from you, and the reasons he doesn’t go into depth on what heaven is like are:
We aught to focus on preserving and caring for others alive on Earth, and the Earth itself, to demonstrate a worthiness to inherit heaven
he wants us to trust him - to believe that God’s creation is good, and believe it so strongly simply on the evidence of this world rather than a sneak peak of the beyond.
it may be indescribable to humans.
if you have to earn a place in heaven, it follows that any description that sufficiently communicates it is like a sneak peak, and we can’t really know if we’ve earned that until we die and weigh the virtue of that person’s life.
And the fact that Trump is by far the closest any human has come to being the actual antichrist while they all just follow blindly is the most depressing humor around.
Not saying this argumentatively, but my 2 cents are that I don’t think Christians “all just follow him blindly.” First, i don’t know how you can have much indication of how many of the christians in america voted for him - it’s not the case that christians migrate en masse to the south to be with like minded people and atheists move up to the north and now you have a neat divide.
Many Christians will have voted him hoping that by second order effects he advances christian interests. This is something that happens under 2 party systems.
I don’t think the most devout and lucid christians support him. Especially after he advanced zionist settle interestsm which is all he stands for now. But uh… you have in the USA a non-lucid christian problem. Mormons, JWs and ridiculous zionist-cult evangelicals. And i’m sorry you have to deal with that, because from what I can tell, those people do blindly support him. To me, those groups are not the best exemplars of “Christian.”
There is a valuable lesson in Donald Trump, though - that we should all have higher standards for the moral standing of a leader. As soon as there was even a question of him being a sex pest (i.e "grab them by the pussies) all people, christian or not, shouldn’t have voted for him.
I’m in the south, so almost all my personal experience is with the stereotypical Baptist type, and my comment was colored with that understanding. I realize there are more types of Christians, but I’m surrounded by the very stereotypical type. So I was referring to them for the most part.
And by “blindly”, I mean they’re assuming that the virtue of voting R is somehow mystically better than voting for someone who will actually not destroy millions of lives. The type I’m familiar with only knows Fox and just assumes anybody that even has to think about who to vote for is probably a Satanist, even though they don’t actually even have a clue what that actually is. They’re “blind” insofar as they can’t see sexual results, they just know they get a god-shaped boner when they vote R.
I only broke out of growing up in it 10 years ago almost exactly (don’t have a date, but it was someone this month). I knew he had made whispers of running a while back, but even though all I only knew him from at the time was that he was on home alone 2 and the apprentice and was some rich guy. I didn’t watch the apprentice, so I didn’t know much about it, but I just knew from tidbits that he was a clown.
I knew as soon as he made a peep I knew that he would be a horrible choice, while still working out how I felt about politics from the ground up.
I remember thinking that the “grab em” conversation leak was actually an instant kill to his entire campaign at the time. I still think it should have been, but I severely underestimated how stupid conservatives are.
I was still coming out of a fog of religion at the time. The world was still opening to me.
There’s probably multiple. Or at least there’s multiple interpretations of it.
I remember reading that bit.
But even if that’s the actual version, this painting just assumes you down near the people you’re wanting to see. Even though those groups would likely have mutually exclusive members? Does everybody get split into though copies to be everywhere they need to be at once?
There’s so much unanswered lore specifics. Revelation was the first part I stopped believing in.
It just seems like whoever wrote it (I think it’s supposed to be John, but those people still think Moses was a real person, so who knows) had dropped too much acid like 10 hours before and was having a really bad comedown phase. None of it is coherent at all.
And the fact that Trump is by far the closest any human has come to being the actual antichrist while they all just follow blindly is the most depressing humor around.
Any other tiny sleight they will call out preemptively (thinking of late 90s/early 00s satanic panic stuff, like Pokémon is evil because it’s made by a company called Wizards of the Coast, and they also make a game called Magic!), but actual Hitler Jr? Nah, they love him to death.
Well here’s what christianity says to that: If the Bible doesn’t tell you about 1 specific topic, it’s not important to your redemption. God reserves the right to keep mysteries from you, and the reasons he doesn’t go into depth on what heaven is like are:
Not saying this argumentatively, but my 2 cents are that I don’t think Christians “all just follow him blindly.” First, i don’t know how you can have much indication of how many of the christians in america voted for him - it’s not the case that christians migrate en masse to the south to be with like minded people and atheists move up to the north and now you have a neat divide.
Many Christians will have voted him hoping that by second order effects he advances christian interests. This is something that happens under 2 party systems.
I don’t think the most devout and lucid christians support him. Especially after he advanced zionist settle interestsm which is all he stands for now. But uh… you have in the USA a non-lucid christian problem. Mormons, JWs and ridiculous zionist-cult evangelicals. And i’m sorry you have to deal with that, because from what I can tell, those people do blindly support him. To me, those groups are not the best exemplars of “Christian.”
There is a valuable lesson in Donald Trump, though - that we should all have higher standards for the moral standing of a leader. As soon as there was even a question of him being a sex pest (i.e "grab them by the pussies) all people, christian or not, shouldn’t have voted for him.
Ok, fair point.
I’m in the south, so almost all my personal experience is with the stereotypical Baptist type, and my comment was colored with that understanding. I realize there are more types of Christians, but I’m surrounded by the very stereotypical type. So I was referring to them for the most part.
And by “blindly”, I mean they’re assuming that the virtue of voting R is somehow mystically better than voting for someone who will actually not destroy millions of lives. The type I’m familiar with only knows Fox and just assumes anybody that even has to think about who to vote for is probably a Satanist, even though they don’t actually even have a clue what that actually is. They’re “blind” insofar as they can’t see sexual results, they just know they get a god-shaped boner when they vote R.
I only broke out of growing up in it 10 years ago almost exactly (don’t have a date, but it was someone this month). I knew he had made whispers of running a while back, but even though all I only knew him from at the time was that he was on home alone 2 and the apprentice and was some rich guy. I didn’t watch the apprentice, so I didn’t know much about it, but I just knew from tidbits that he was a clown.
I knew as soon as he made a peep I knew that he would be a horrible choice, while still working out how I felt about politics from the ground up.
I remember thinking that the “grab em” conversation leak was actually an instant kill to his entire campaign at the time. I still think it should have been, but I severely underestimated how stupid conservatives are.
I was still coming out of a fog of religion at the time. The world was still opening to me.