• Square Singer@feddit.de
    1191·
    1 year ago

    Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Ubuntu Budgie, Ubuntu Kylin, Ubuntu MATE, Ubuntu Studio, Xubuntu, Edubuntu, Mythbuntu.

          • 3ntranced@lemmy.world
            71·
            1 year ago

            Oh yeah

            Boot up

            You get the GUI out front

            Hottest styles, every theme, every color

            Yeah, when you’re root it can be kinda fun

            As long as your password is never discovered

            In some ways you’re just like all your friends

            But on the internetz you’re a star

            You get the best of both OS’s

            Run Windows, take it slow

            Then Linux rocks out the show

            You get the best of both OS’s

            Mix it all together and you know that it’s the best of both OS’s

            The best of both OS’s

            You go to software premiers (is that Linus Torvalds?)

            Hear songs on Pandora radio

            Bootin’ two OS’s is a little weird (yeah)

            But tech support’s cool cuz nobody knows

            Yeah you get to be a Windows loser

            But big time when you sudo

            You get the best of both OS’s

            Run Windows, take it slow

            Then Linux rocks out the show

            You get the best of both OS’s

            Mix it all together and you know that it’s the best of both

            (You know the best) You know the best of both OS’s

            Pictures and videos

            You get your face in all the social networks

            The best parts that you get to run whatever software you wanna run

            Yeah the best of both

            You get the best of both

            Come on best of both

            Who would of thought that a loser like me

            Would double as a Linux rock star

            You get the best of both OS’s

            Run Windows, take it slow

            Then Linux rocks out the show

            You get the best of both OS’s

            Mix it all together and you know that it’s the best,

            You get the best of both OS’s

            Without the viruses and malware

            You can surf anywhere

            You get the best of both systems

            Mix it all together

            Oh yeah

            It’s so much better cuz you know you’ve got the best of both OS’s

      • noproblemmy@programming.dev
        0·
        1 year ago

        I tried to search about it but the ubuntu wiki directs me to ubuntu-libre, and there directs me to gobuntu, and then it says gobuntu has been merged back to ubuntu?

        Did I misinterpret something or is it what it seems?

        • kby@feddit.de
          6·
          1 year ago

          GNUbuntu was an Ubuntu derivative that delivered only free software in the default install. It was abandoned for gNewSense and ultimately, Trisquel.

  • Square Singer@feddit.de
    715·
    1 year ago

    Tbh, I don’t really get the hate that Ubuntu gets.

    I mean, I do understand that people don’t like some of the decisions made with Ubuntu (e.g. snap), but especially for people who don’t use an OS for the sake of using that OS and just want to use their PC to get stuff done, Ubuntu/Kubuntu are quite good.

    You have a mostly consistent UI that can do most important configs without touching CLI. Manuals and simple guides are easy to find, even in other languages than English (which is important for quite a big number of people outside the US).

    And contrary to some other, smaller distros, Ubuntu isn’t run by just 1-2 people and you can trust in it still existing in 10 years. (Obviously, this is true for many other distros, but some quite widly used distros are run just by a tiny team of hobbyists)

    I mean, I’d get the reaction if someone claimed they are Linux users because they use Android (though with enough knowledge you can also get a full Linux distro running on Android in chroot).

    • caseyweederman@lemmy.ca
      4010·
      1 year ago

      “Use Snaps”
      “No” (installs .deb)
      “Fuck you, use Snaps”
      (The Snap Store is a proprietary closed-source black-box that updates your snaps without asking and every part of this statement was a deliberate planned feature by Canonical)

      • Square Singer@feddit.de
        266·
        1 year ago

        I mentioned this in the comment you answered to. But as I said, this might be an issue for people that use Linux because they really hate anything that isn’t GPL, but 97% of the people on this planet care more about whether something is simple to use than what license it uses, as evidenced by the market share of Windows, Android, Chromebooks and Apple products.

        Wouldn’t it be better to get some of them to use Ubuntu with snaps than to stay on their proprietary platforms, because packet management sucks and conflicts are basically impossible to solve for someone who’s not a software developer?

        • caseyweederman@lemmy.ca
          11·
          1 year ago

          Linus swore that Bitkeeper wouldn’t alter the agreement further, like a mad egotistical movie villain.
          Canonical is very clearly funneling their userbase towards a Snap-only environment (something that already exists as an option).
          As the sole keyholders, and as a for-profit business, what is the next step?

          Is it to maintain a wealth of options, even when that cuts into profit margins? What about when those options are competing products (think Gnome and KDE back in the Unity days)?
          These things just do not make sense from a business perspective, and they will not be necessary once their userbase is locked into the Snap walled garden.

          As to your point about licenses and market share, default non-options and limited choices aren’t compatible with conversations about choice.

          • droans@lemmy.world
            4·
            1 year ago

            How many major distros aren’t run by for-profit entities nowadays? If you want any sort of enterprise use, you need to offer a 24/7 live support plan.

            I guess the big difference is that Canonical is hoping to make money off the home users too.

      • bjorney@lemmy.ca
        193·
        1 year ago

        The Snap Store is a proprietary closed-source black-box

        Every part of the snap store running on your computer is open source.

        that updates your snaps without asking

        If you don’t want your snaps auto-updating, turn auto updates off. snap --help

        • caseyweederman@lemmy.ca
          122·
          1 year ago

          I looked into it. You’re right.
          They implemented the ability to permanently hold all automatic updates.
          After five years of debate during which they consistently claimed that the whole point of Snaps is that developers can push whatever, whenever.

      • droans@lemmy.world
        5·
        1 year ago

        I’ll just use apt to bypass the snaps…

        $ sudo apt install xyz
Installing snap for xyz...

        Okay what the fuck

      • Square Singer@feddit.de
        214·
        1 year ago

        I really don’t like that sentiment though. Software development isn’t for free just because you slap GPL on it. These devs need to be paid somehow if they are supposed to do more than 3h/week.

        You can also see the same thing in the Linux kernel. Many Kernel devs are employed by Microsoft, Google, the NSA and many other commercial entities.

    • fernandu00@lemmy.ml
      11·
      1 year ago

      Yeah I quit Ubuntu after 12 years but I still recommend it for people trying to change OS …it’s great OS

    • Punkie@lemmy.world
      8·
      1 year ago

      I have used Kubuntu since 12.04 and had few issues. I get everyone has favorites, but don’t understand the visceral tribalism present. Maybe I’ll hate Kubuntu when 24.04 comes out, I dunno. I have 20.04 as a daily driver and run into very few issues that are specifically Kubuntu related. I could use debian with KDE someday, I dunno.

      I just want Linux, bash, and a decent browser at the end of the day.

    • beirdobaggins@lemmy.world
      6·
      1 year ago

      Ubuntu is great. I used it for years.

      This is going to sound petty, but one thing that annoyed me for years was the ads for their enterprise crap that they put into the terminal whn running updates.

      I tried Debian 12 when it came out and I love it. I switched all of my systems to Debian.

      I would much rather use a community driven distro than a corporate one.

      Also, I applied for a job with Ubuntu The recruiter sent me the most insane take home written interview packet. I took a look at it and decided I didnt want to work with a bunch of people who would fill that packet out.

  • Moobythegoldensock@lemm.eeEnglish
    463·
    1 year ago

    Off the top of my head:

    • Ubuntu
    • Mint
    • MX
    • Debian
    • Devuan
    • Pop!_OS
    • Zorin
    • Kali
    • Fedora
    • Red Hat
    • CentOS
    • OpenSUSE
    • Rocky
    • Alma
    • Arch
    • Blackarch
    • Parrot
    • Manjaro
    • EndeavorOS
    • Garuda
    • Gentoo
    • Alpine
    • Puppy
    • Tinycore
    • PostmarketOS
    • Tails
    • Slackware
    • LFS (sort of)
    • Yocto (sort of)
    • Raspbian
    • Raspberry Pi OS
  • somenonewho@feddit.de
    291·
    1 year ago

    Now name 10 distros that aren’t based on each other. And yes I’m counting the *buntus as being based on Debian.

    If you look at the famous lineage graph there’s a fill out there but barely any reinvention of the wheel (not that that’s a bad thing).

  • atk007@lemmy.world
    181·
    1 year ago

    Ubuntu with KDE = Kubuntu

    Ubuntu with LXDE/LXQT = Lubuntu

    Ubuntu with XFCE = Xubuntu

    Ubuntu with Gnome … Where is Gubuntu?