• SkyNTP@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Lack of graphics settings aren’t why I stopped playing. It’s the game mechanics. The game isn’t that fun for two major immersion breaking reasons.

    • Loading screens. So many loading screens. Just reminds me I’m using software instead of being in a universe.
    • Over reliance on fast travel. Yeah, space is boring. But why have a space setting at all if we are going to skip through it? Why bother building custom ships if there are no real challenges to overcome with them because spending time in space is not necessary at all ? Worse, it’s a bad experience because of the loading screens.
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      There should be a happy medium. I haven’t played Elite Dangerous in a year because I’m 50 jumps away from where I need to go, which means like 3 hours of nothing but travel. But the realism is out of this world. This Starfield thing of never needing to fly is too far in the other direction. I think a happy medium would be a system like Elite Dangerous, but if you need to travel more than a couple of systems over, have a long distance jump gate or something like that, and maybe autopilot. Eve online has jump gates and autopilot, but it can still take hours to cross the universe. It’s more entertaining to have a quick travel option for those scenarios. Eve has wormhole systems that will let you cross the entire universe in a few jumps, but finding those connections will take longer than just flying directly, unless you’re in a huge wormhole corporation that uses 3rd party tools to map all of the wormhole connections to known space.

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        Given every single system in Starfield is already explored and built on, I think they should have just given up on the jump system and gone with a gate system like Freelancer or the X series. You get to fly to every point without menus while still being time efficient. The reason they didn’t go with this is presumably because of the supposed “exploring the unknown” angle, but you never explore anywhere new in Starfield anyway.

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        Everyone loves to hate on it, but one thing that Star Citizen absolutely nails is the sense of immersion. From the time you load in until the time you are inevitably disconnected from the server, and from ground to ship to space, you are in one experience with no loading screens

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        1 year ago

        Why doesn’t Elite let you travel offline? Like, set the destination, close the game, and reopen it 3h later.

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          I’m not sure. I guess because they go hard in the simulation aspect of the game. Although if we’re being realistic, it’s unrealistic that you’d have an interstellar space ship without an autopilot. I read that there are mods to enable autopilot, but I also read they can get your account banned, so I stopped looking into them.

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          Because they decided to make the game always online in a persistent galaxy so the possibility a ganker finds has to be respected.

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        I’m 50 jumps away from where I need to go, which means like 3 hours of nothing but travel

        If you upgrade your fuel scoop, that’ll cut down your time severely. I can do about 30 jumps an hour with my Krait Phantom. Refuels before my FSD is even cooled down.

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      You see this issue when one of your core game loop isn’t enjoyable. It happens a lot in games, and you notice it if a game gives you and item or ability to play the game less.

      This can be okay if this item comes in just as that loop gets boring (like you unlock special flash grab drives part way through the game). But if they let you fast travel from the beginning the likely case is that they found the whole space travel boring and they ended up providing a way around it.

      Which leaves people asking “why’d you bother adding it in there”

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    Hell of an article title for an update that pretty much just adds DLSS support and the ability to eat food from the environment.

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    Sigh. All these publishers are doing by rushing games out the door is training future buyers to not want to buy games on release.

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        Did you try to play stealth my guy. And how much god damn work do I have to put in, how much useless crafting do I have to do so I can just put a silencer on my gun come on man if this doesn’t mean broken what does.

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        Everyone says everything is “broken” now. The game loop absolutely works so it’s not broken Yet it is flawed.

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          Yeah, they could’ve done better with the New Game+ for sure, which to me isn’t exactly surprising since it’s their first main line game to have it.

          I do appreciate that there are considerable differences to the story on certain replays, but it’s a slog doing basically the same thing every time. I wish there was a bit more variance.

          The flying between or into planets/loading screen issue, I think, is entirely due to the pressure from management announcing early, and then a rush to meet the original deadline, and then another rush to meet the Microsoft mandated delay. Fixing it could’ve been worth it, but it would’ve certainly taken an uncertain number of months, which wasn’t worth it to management or microsoft.

          I do think it will be remembered fondly eventually just like every other mainline Bethesda game has been, though.

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            Funnily enough, this is the first time a game’s NG+ actual felt compelling to me with how it’s actually part of the story and the workings of the universe.

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    I doubt a patch nor mod support will motivate me to play this game. This is the most empty Bethesda game they’ve released when they could’ve had something special if they had any ambition.

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    So does this mean the game is finally ready for me to buy? Just waiting on a Steam sale and I’ll finally get to play this. Bugs or not, I’m not paying $70 for a base video game.

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      I’d say probably not. Unless the graphics were the only thing holding you back, this update does not appear to have done anything to improve the gameplay loop, menu system, or story content.

      Compared to previous Bethesda games, it actually ran rather well at launch even when missing the features added by this update. But I’d say there’s quite a lot more that needs to be done to call it a good game, with graphics/performance being the lowest priority on the list.

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      Id wait till post expansion and creation kit imo.

      Reletively speaking starfield is already a lot less buggy then other Bethesda game studio titles. Its just matter of fixing parts of the game some users didnt like.

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      So does this mean the game is finally ready for me to buy?

      Nope. Worth waiting for a few more fixes and proper mod support.

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    The game we should have had at launch is one where my >100h save wouldn’t make it crash on load.

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    Did they finally release modding tools? Bethesda games without mods are such a slog and Starfield was worse than any previous one.