• ageek@lemmy.world
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    How is it a war if one side can cut off the electricity, fuel and drinking water used by the other side ?

  • Fedizen@lemmy.world
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    bad headline. this should read “Israel resumes executing child inmates in the worlds largest prison camp.”

    • timidgoat@lemmy.ca
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      Reminder that there was a 56 year occupation and a 75 year ethnic cleansing before the 7tg of October attacks

      • bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Some more reminders to add:

        • Reminder that a majority of Palestinian deaths since October 7th were not members of Hamas

        • Reminder that hundreds have been murdered in the West Bank since October 7th even though “war” was only declared against Hamas who has no administration over the West Bank

        • Reminder that a large swath of civilian deaths were children who had no say in the 2006 “election” of Hamas to administer the Gaza strip

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          • Reminder that multiple Palestinian villages have been ethnically cleansed in the West Bank during the assault on Gaza, by settler militias supported by the IOF.

          • Reminder that Israel rejected early proposals for hostage exchanges opting instead for carnage on the Palestinian civilians.

          • Reminder that Israel KNEW of the October 7 attack ahead of time and failed to do anything to stop it.

          • Reminder that Israel is by all accounts a setler-colonial ethnostate imposing apartheid on the Palestinian people.

        • lolcatnip@reddthat.com
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          Do you have a citation for hundreds of murders in the West Bank? All I can find are articles about individual incidents, and one that mentioned 34 children.

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          Reminder that a large swath of civilian deaths were children who had no say in the 2006 “election” of Hamas to administer the Gaza strip

          Gazan checklist: Elect a terrorist government, support Intifada (70% support,) have lots of kids in miserable conditions while in what critics call an “open air prison,” teach your kids to hate and become militants, allow Hamas to hide among your children while starting an unwinnable war, then blame Israel for the inevitable and predictable consequences.

          Why do none of you seem to consider Gazan parents responsible for the circumstances of their children?

          • samokosik@lemmynsfw.com
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            You are literally considering existing on an undisputed land as “occupation” and self-defense as ethnic cleansing. Just look at numbers of Palestinian population and the whole ethnic cleansing shit I see on the internet falls apart.

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                Yes, it is undisputed land. How else would you call it? Had Palestinians accepted one of the 14 offers Israel gave them, it could have been Palestinian land but now it is an undisputed land.

    • bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Reminder that hundreds of Palestinians were murdered during the 9-year “truce” from 2014-2023. Not to mention the land stolen and the homes, farms, and crops destroyed in the West Bank during that period.

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            You didn’t answer them. Why don’t unsuccessful attempts to blindly and indiscriminately murder Israelis count?

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              Did I ever say they don’t count? The point is that both Israel and Hamas violated the “truce”, making it a stretch to say there was an actual truce prior to October 7th.

              Israeli civilians and Palestinian civilians suffer as a result of the exchanges between the IDF and Hamas.

              Both the IDF and Hamas do not care about their civilians.

              Both the IDF and Hamas do not care about killing civilians to achieve their goal.

              But the IDF has been doing this for far longer than Hamas and helped to create them in the first place.

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    I get Israel’s anxiety, literally being surrounded by nations that want to obliterate it from the face of the earth. Still, that doesn’t justify war crimes.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The seven-day pause, which began on Nov. 24 and was extended twice, had allowed for the exchange of dozens of hostages held in Gaza for hundreds of Palestinian prisoners and facilitated the entry of humanitarian aid into the shattered coastal strip.

    At an emergency meeting in Amman, Jordan’s King Abdullah on Thursday urged U.N. officials and international groups to pressure Israel to allow more aid into the beleaguered enclave, according to delegates.

    When the ceasefire first came into effect a week ago, Israel was preparing to turn the focus of its operation to southern Gaza after its seven-week assault to the north.

    U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken, in Israel during his third visit to the Middle East since the war began, did not comment on the resumption of fighting as he headed for Dubai.

    On Thursday, Blinken said he told Netanyahu Israel cannot repeat in south Gaza the massive civilian casualties and displacement of residents it inflicted in the north.

    “We discussed the details of Israel’s ongoing planning and I underscored the imperative for the United States that the massive loss of civilian life and displacement of the scale that we saw in northern Gaza not be repeated in the south,” Blinken told reporters in Tel Aviv, adding the Israeli government had agreed.


    The original article contains 811 words, the summary contains 214 words. Saved 74%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    There’s a reason that “don’t negotiate with terrorists” is a good rule to follow

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      Both sides got things they wanted. Seems like a successful negotiation to me.

    • demonsword@lemmy.world
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      indeed it is, makes me wonder why any country still has any dealings with Israel at this point

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        Which side is taking hostages? Which side slaughtered, raped, and kidnapped civilians without even claiming they were going after military targets? Hint: not Israel. If you have the stomach, watch this uncensored Oct 7 footage (warning: blood, gore, and death,) and tell me the ones responding to this are the real terorists, and who has the moral high ground. Note how they shoot people trying to surrender and any civilians they happen to come across.

        How does one get such a twisted worldview?

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          Israel actually have thousands of “prisoners”, many of which are being held indefinitely without charges or trial. Usually when someone is being held against their will, without reason we call them a hostage. Israel has abducted more Palestinians during the “truce” than they have released. Israel is also seemingly responsible for many of the deaths of Israeli civilians on the 7th of October, including shooting people exiting homes in kibbutzim at the orders of the army.If you want to start sharing graphic, gory, NSFL videos, I have countless videos of Palestinian children without limbs, intact skulls, you name it. No one here is defending Hamas killing civilians. But they difference is that unlike you, we are not defending Israel killing thousands of civilians. The IOF is a terrorist army.

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            Israel actually have thousands of “prisoners”, many of which are being held indefinitely without charges or trial.

            That’s war; stay belligerent after defeat, be subjected to your enemy’s military courts. They still get more due process than the hostages did.

            Israel is also seemingly responsible for many of the deaths of Israeli civilians on the 7th of October, including shooting people exiting homes in kibbutzim at the orders of the army

            Friendly fire exists therefore terrorism? Please.

            No one here is defending Hamas killing civilians.

            You are attempting to justify Hamas when you imply Israel is the greater evil, calling them the terrorists.

            unlike you, we are not defending Israel killing thousands of civilians. The IOF is a terrorist army.

            That’s what happens when you start a war, civilians die as collateral damage. Responding to an organized attack by a hostile government is not terrorism. Not responding is foolish.

  • pan_troglodytes@programming.dev
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    a truce is a pause in warfare - peace is only achieved via surrender. in this particular war, it’ll be only unconditional surrender - and it’s obvious who’s going to be surrendering to whom.