This worked as of 21:30 Eastern time on 6 December 2024.
Is there an option for “Request Amazon to pay drivers decently and improve working conditions?”
Nope, just a “illegally suppress unions” button.
Openly promoting the fact that they underpay their drivers, for a limited time.
“Yes, we could be paying our drivers an extra 5 dollars, we just choose not to, lol.”
Why would they do it if they can have you do it?
You’re not paying, you’re clicking a button to have Amazon give $5 of their money to the driver.
They could have just given a bunch of drivers $5, but then they wouldn’t make a bunch of customers think Amazon isn’t too bad.So you should push the button, but also pointedly continue to think badly of Amazon.
Asking honestly, respectfully, and in good faith - is there a downside to doing this? Edit: I mean, is there a downside to rewarding the driver via this promotion.
Yes, it undermines the idea that drivers deserve a living wage and is just Amazon dipping their toes into shifting their drivers into something closer to ‘ride share’ style independent contractors who primarily get their income from tips.
Short term benefit for long term problems.
I mean, 100% the drivers should be being paid more and the entire system is fundamentally broken.
In the here and now though, where I can’t do anything to fix anything even if I entirely stop using Amazon forever right this moment, giving someone a random $5 that they wouldn’t otherwise have is a good thing.
Yea if you’re going to use a bad service might as well help while you can. It’s like going to a restaurant then not tipping because it encourages owners. They don’t give a fuck cause they still get your money
Then give the tip in person. Don’t let amazon know they can count on their customers to carry the burden of paying their employees
Oh God no, then it’s actually me paying the money, which makes it an actual tip.
If Amazon asks if they should pay someone more, the answer is always yes.That’s fair too. I’ll be honest I’m always going to be pessimistic as hell when it comes to anything amazon says and does. If it’s their money, make them pay up
Technically youre right, but would you say the same if Putin started handing out band-aids to ukrainians who just lost their families?
… What? That’s such a non-sequitor that I’m honestly not sure if you replied to the wrong thing or something.
I can’t say that I would say the same thing in an entirely different situation with nothing to do with the other.
Its a similar situation. You ‘cant do anything about anything’ and handing out band-aids is ‘better than nothing’. Would ‘giving someone a band-aid is a good thing’ be your stance in that situation or would you find it rather inappropriate?
They’re not similar situations at all. For one, it’s an absurd difference in scale. Whatever your opinions of Amazon delivery driver working conditions and pay, it’s in no way comparable to “an invading army murdered their family”.
Second, whether or not I should push a button to give someone $5 with no obligation on their part is a different situation from getting a bandaid for a murdered family on the whim of the responsible party.
If you could push a button and a random person somewhere in the world gets $1 million, would you push the button?
Short term benefit for long term problems.
slippery slope fallacy
Clicking a button that gives someone money at no expense to you isn’t causing the issue you’re worried about, it’s at worst symptomatic of the broken system that might lead to your concern.
Not all slippery slopes are fallacies.
Ever notice that all the counter service places are leaning into tipping because it became popular with coffee shops?
Sure. And if Amazon ever asks us to tip delivery people with our own money we shouldn’t because that’s bullshit.
That being bullshit has no bearing on if it’s good to click the button that gives someone $5 at no expense to you out of their employers pocket.
If a counter service place has a button I could press to give them $5 of the stores money, I would press it every time. That’s not a tip because it’s not my money supplementing the employees wages.
Plenty of untipped jobs are seen as being undeserving of a living wage, though, so I don’t follow your logic.
The downside is that it costs Amazon $5.00.
Amazon has lots of money and they can easily afford this PR/marketing promotion that they choose to do. Amazon drivers work hard and deserve to be paid fairly for their work. Even though this is just marketing it still results in the drivers getting more money so if you order something from Amazon you might as well do it at every opportunity you get.
That’s only a downside if you’re an Amazon executive or shareholder. To a human being, it isn’t.
I don’t know if a scrappy lil startup like Amazon can handle it.
You don’t even know if this is really giving money to anyone, let alone the driver for your delivery.
But it doesn’t cost you anything. Worst case scenario is the same as not doing it.
This is normalizing tipping drivers and pretty soon it will be expected. Resist this enshittification.
If you’re this principled you should be boycotting Amazon anyway. If you’re not, give the driver $5 if it costs you nothing.
100%.
It’s to mentally condition you when it WILL cost.
Expected? They’ll make it mandatory, and then lower the amount of wages they pay their drivers, pointing to the tips as justification.
It’s not a tip. Amazon is giving them the cash not you. It’s more like a bonus
For now
I thought this was a shitpost but I tried it and it worked. What a weird way to hide a tip.
Can any driver confirm they get the extra pay?
Or is this just propaganda to make the buyer feel good?
Cool but in all seriousness try not using amazon and using ethical alternatives if you can afford it.
Been using ebay more and I like it. Although one of my previous ebay order went through Amazon because the asshole seller just purchased it in amazon and sent it to me. They profited what? $2
Ive had some really bad problems with eBay and is actually why I went back to amazon.
One item was taking a long time to ship with no label made, I contacted the seller and told me that things were super busy in Japan. I gave him the benefit of a doubt and I checked in another month later, I asked him just to refund it, h but he kept delaying and eventually I just tried to go to eBay customer service. THERE IS NO CUSTOMER SERVICE. There are only automated menus for you to click through for different options, and since at this point it was longer than 3 months I couldn’t do anything to get a refund, despite zero evidence of shipping being provided.
I have had to refund some stuff from amazon from time to time and a couple other issues, but those are always sorted promptly, especially after speaking to customer service. The complete lack of any human to speak to on ebay gives me zero confidence buying from there.
I got scammed on a gpu once. It was a too good to be true listing and the seller only had like 1 review and yet I still bought it. Contacted ebay and they refunded me fairly quickly.
I think you can use Amazon as a distributor if you are keeping your inventory at their warehouses. They handle all the logistics. It‘s called „fulfilment by amazon“.
just advertisment for Amazon - now people will talk about them and share this ad on social media :/
For some time now I’ve been very successful at not buying anything from Amazon.
If you have an Echo device, you can also ask Alexa to “thank my driver” and it will apply it to the most recent order on your account. Just did it for an order that came in on Monday and Alexa gave me the $5 spiel.
So you have ordered a book named “Never pay the first bill”??
Done. Two seconds. 2/3 hrs pay to them. Do it you assholes.
Nah, most recent one didn’t follow delivery instructions. Too bad you can’t pick, all the others have deserved it.
Edit: woo, good news, my last delivery before my prime “trial” expired and I stop using Amazon again, the driver managed to push the large face-height Amazon brand doorbell (didn’t install it) and earned their $5 reward.
Amusingly I got more downvoters for giving the money than not, lol
Lmao I feel you but you never know what the other person’s day is like. We order from them while coming on here and cheering for their fair wages. We gotta have empathy that their lives suck in the micro, if we can see the socioeconomic component in the macro.
(Also, do it after your next order if you really want to withhold)
I’ve angrily thought “I want my ten dollar fucking tip back from this piece of shit” than shutup, ate my cold or incorrect meal, thought over it without being hangry and realized the evening is still worse for them.
My delivery instruction is “ring the doorbell” (so I know to come downstairs and grab it off the major street before it’s stolen)
Yes, my post was a trap for people like you.
Maybe you should try altering it to say “Please, ring my doorbell so I know to come downstairs and grab it before it’s stolen.”
The delivery app that drivers use often simply says “ring the doorbell” as a default but then also in the same area says “no need to knock / ring bell” so being more explicit in your instructions may improve your results.
Any Amazon drivers here that can give some insight into this?
Works in Japan, too. Gives ¥500 extra.
Worked for me
Worked for me
