• TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
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    22 days ago

    Americans seem get really weird with the whole ancestry thing. There appears to be a desire to look into your family history and find something “exotic”, which basically seems to mean non-English - I imagine because that’s perceived as the ‘default’ ancestry, so-to-speak.

    Honestly, who the fuck cares? What difference does it make? Nationalities aren’t Skyrim races. You don’t get special abilities. It makes no difference whether your ancestors were British/Irish/Spanish/French/whatever.

    E: This is obviously not intended as a hateful statement, people. You have to understand that the rest of the world doesn’t care about this, so we’re confused when we look to the US and see them take it so seriously. We’re especially puzzled when Americans say “I’m Irish” because their great great great uncle bought a pint of Guiness in the 1870s. It’s an alien concept to the rest of the planet.

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      23 days ago

      I worked with a French guy in Amsterdam. His parents were Portuguese, but he was born and raised in France. As far as he was concerned, he was French.

      Contrariwise, I worked with an American woman in Virginia. Her grandparents were Irish, and she considered herself Irish, in spite of having been born and raised in America, and both of her parents having been born and raised in America.

      It is a kind of fetish in America to hyphenate yourself. Irish-American. Cuban-American. And so on.

      My own theory is that this is because America has no culture going back many generations, so people try to find one.

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        23 days ago

        It’s even more strange when I see 3rd or 4th generation children from immigrants call themselves “Greek” or “Italian” and many times they’ve never even stepped inside those countries nor speak the language

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        14 days ago

        My own theory is racism. Other countries in the Americas are not obsessed with ancestry. But bigotry against Scots, Irish, Italians, Africans, Chinese, Polish, etc. ran / run rampant.

        Jeez, are there people the English didn’t hate? I wonder if the overall disdain for other people the English had in the 1800s wasn’t what was carried over to the new world and festered into this.

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      22 days ago

      One guy writes an article. literally just one dude.

      the comments: “AMERICANS ARE WEIRD AF. ALL AMERICANS DO THIS AND FEEL THIS WAY.”

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        22 days ago

        It’s not just him. The “I’m Irish/Italian” crowd is a widely known-about American thing.

        I didn’t mean to offend you. Relax. I never said all Americans do it, you don’t need to come up with some reactionary strawman just because you took my comment to heart.

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          22 days ago

          America is a lot of people from different places settling in one continent. lots of people care about what their family history is. I’m not sure what’s weird about that.

          there’s a lot of people with bloodlines from different parts of the world in every country. it means something to some people. not everyone, but quite a few.

          that particular phenomenon is everywhere.

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      22 days ago

      What’s with the negativity from you and the other comments?

      I can tell you why Americans care. Because identity matters to people. The story of the melting pot is central to the American story as a nation of immigrants (even today) and central to individual identities. Thus, there is a lot of interest in backgrounds and geneology. If you ask the average American about their heritage you’re likely to get a surprising answer - so people talk about it more.

      I get why it seems weird to many other cultures - if you ask the average French person (for example) their heritage they’ll say ‘French as far back as we can tell’.

      The French person celebrates their identity through the lens of the French story, and the American does too, it’s just that the American story is the immigrant story.

      I hope you do actually care. I hope in this era of rising nationalism and online hate enough of us value diversity of backgrounds and ancestries.

  • antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    22 days ago

    Recreational DNA testing eventually led to discovering that I had never before met my biological father. Mom got it wrong. I met him and his family this summer finally. I am slightly irritated that my last name (and my child’s) is now kind of meaningless, and it’s too much of a hassle to change it.

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      22 days ago

      Paternity testing should be done for every child. The child and father should have the same certainty that mothers have.