• Mettled@reddthat.com
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    2 months ago

    Switch phone service to VoIP, cancel cell service, all tracking capabilities is gone.

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        2 months ago

        It is possible to get a real cell number from a big name carrier and then port the number to VoIP company to use VoIP service with an original cell number.

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          Maybe, but if anything bad happens to originate from that number, the port history is still visible and now they have a suspect.

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            2 months ago

            Stick with only having a landline until you can get over yourself and your self aggrandizment.

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      Iirc any cell phone is still capable of dialing 911(or equivalent) even without a sim. So id imagine carrier towers and gps could still find it. You’d basically have to keep the device in a ferriday bag. Which complicates actually using it.

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        Why does a phone need to be in a ferriday bag when phone does not have a SIM card because it uses web-based VoIP service? The phone only needs an internet connection, like wi-fi, and can’t talk to cell towers. Remove SIM from phone, connect phone to wi-fi to get online to access phone service through the internet, GPS can’t function. If a phone without SIM calls 911, it will go through, but dispatch sees no number, no location, no name.

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          2 months ago
          • any carrier within range can still potentially track you, maybe not with airplane mode but Snowden says don’t trust that

          • GPS still “works” without any signal, service or net access

          • AGPS mandate forces 911 calls to reveal your location

          For max privacy without going completely analog you’d want a device with NO cellular radio at all

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            2 months ago

            You have way too much time of doing nothing of significance and fill it with meaningless chatter. Spend more expanding job skills and still listening to so many inexperienced opinions.

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      You’re just shifting trust though - may be good in some cases, but not universal. Aldo does nothing about the cell tower connections tracking the location.

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        2 months ago

        How can cell towers track your location if phone does not have a SIM due to using web-based VoIP service?

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            2 months ago

            I think you’re mainly speaking from a place of percieved opinion than tech knowledge but I would suggest for you that you only use a landline for phone service. Have you ever had a job working with various network services for random customers and speak to customers to answer questions?

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              From the context of your previous comments, it seemed like you were talking not about not having a mobile phone in general, but rather a SIMless phone. Using it over Wi-Fi only is indeed doable - but you’d need an Airplane Mode on an OS you can trust, just having no SIM would not be enough.

              Also no, I did not have such a job - I don’t understand how this question relates to the conversation.

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                2 months ago

                Any AOSP ROM would suffice.

                The queation pertains to having a sense from how someone talks if they sound like they can configure network services or if they only read about it but not having the skills/experience to work for random customers and explain the work to them.

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    2 months ago

    Too bad private email access is essentially dead. Any service not requiring another email or phone number to sign up gets quickly shut down. A casualty in the war on whistleblowers.

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        Yes, tho it days it dosent store it, ill leave it up to you what you do whit that.

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          They do store it and have provided it to authorities in the past. In their defense, modern laws require you to hand over any data you have or get shut down. But they already knew that, yet choose to ask for it anyways knowing that they have to give it away if asked to.

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            As far as I understand it, this is only recovery emails and I think it explicitly has some sort of warning about this when setting it. This is different than the email prompt on sign up.

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              I didn’t even know it asked for an email for sign up. I just remember the recovery email.

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              I wouldn’t trust them not to store the initial one as well tbh. Nothing technically stops that and it’s in their interests.

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                They don’t ask for one on signup. I just signed up recently while using Tor on Tails, and was not required to provide an email for any reason. The only thing that happens is you get a warning in the account panel saying you won’t be able to recover your account if you lose the recovery codes.

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            2 months ago

            They provided it to Swiss authorities, with a notice that it happened to their customers. They do not have any requirement to share it with other governments.

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          2 months ago

          you still can, it was a bug in past that they fixed long ago

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            it’s not a bug and it’s still not possible, it’s for tracking who created the account of course.

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              It is possible, I just signed up for one recently while using Tails. I was not required to use either email or phone number. Stop spreading misinformation.

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                  They said any service gets shut down. I registered a ProtonMail account without email or phone number. Proton also does not cooperate with anyone but Swiss authorities. It is obviously still possible.

                  You can also register without one on cock.li, if you don’t mind them being edgy middle-aged teenagers.

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            Try it now. Load up a tor tab in the Brave browser, and try signing up for an email without providing any info.

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              yes I just did, not brave but tor browser and I was able to create account

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                I just loaded up a Linux vm with Brave, and tried to sign up in a tor window. It requires a verification email to sign up.

                Maybe you’re using a browser or OS that it’s tracking.

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                  It does not, this is misinformation. Do not believe this person, I recently did it on Tails while using Tor and did not need email or phone number.

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          I did that recently while using Tails, and it let me register without either an email or phone number. This is misinformation.