Supposedly, I am a human, who does very human things.
Ha ha, andrew bad, I agree, but…
You can do research and find a bunch more sources than even the wikipedia article lists, but in essence, if you are at all sexually active as an adult, you almost certainly already have herpes.
Just reality.
The stigma shouldn’t be there for something this mundane.
This is stupid though. IP addresses in many homes rotate, so IP ban lists are utterly ineffective and could very well ban the wrong people.
The harms and atrocities that come from dairy and eggs are arguably worse than meat itself
Certifiably cap, just from the scale of it all. Meat production has a non insignificant amount of environmental impact.
Dairy does too, but meat, you need more animals to kill.
and the former industries drive the latter to some extent
This is exactly backwards
Vegetarianism is neither ideologically or functionally different than any other form of animal commodification.
This is so absurd on its face that I don’t think you’re reasonable enough to bother arguing with, and don’t think anyone reading this will think you are, so I’d just be wasting my time.
Also fuck giving saudi arabia money. Sometimes its unavoidable, but this is a video game. There are other video games, but there is no regime worse than the saudi regime.
“bUt ThEy DoNt OwN tHeM yEt”
The price has been settled on, so any success from here on out absolutely does directly benefit the saudis.
But… that isnt what happened here
Except the other person is most of the way with that viewpoint, hence me calling it a purity test.
This is why people who are gung ho about AI policing need to slow their role.
If they got their way, what they don’t realize is that it’s actually what the big AI companies have wanted and been begging for all along.
They want AI to stay centralized and impossible to enter as a field.
This is why they want to lose copyright battles eventually such that only they will have the funds to actually afford to make usable AI things in the future (this of course is referring to the types of AI that require training material of that variety).
What that means is there will be no competitive open source self hostable options and we’d all be stuck sharing all our information through the servers of 3 USA companies or 2 Chinese companies while paying out the ass to do so.
What we actually want is sanity, where its the end product that is evaluated against copy right.
For a company selling AI services, you could argue that this is service itself maybe, but then what of an open source model? Is it delivering a service?
I think it should be as it is. If you make something that violates copyright, then you get challenged, not your tools.
Given that we are a social species, that sounds like a terrible way to get literally anything you want accomplished by anyone else.
More than that, it absolutely sounds like you hate people given the vitriol you spat at that person who clearly agrees with you a majority of the way.
You also, even if you don’t care about social norms clearly understand the difference between not, for instance, participating in a silly tradition, and being unnecessarily and unhelpfully rude and aggressive.
Personally I feel that the hate for AI is misplaced (mostly, as I do get there is a lot of nuance regarding peoples feelings on training sourcing etc). Partially because its such a wide catch all term, and then mostly, by far, because all of the problems with AI are actually just problems with the underlying crony capitalism in charge of its development right now.
Every problem like AI “lacking empathy” is down to the people using it not caring to keep it out of places where it fails to accomplish such goals or where they are explicitly using it to strip people of their humanity; something that inherently lacks empathy.
If you take away the horrible business motivations etc, I think its pretty undeniable AI is and will be a great technology for a lot of purposes and not for a lot of the ones its used for now (this continued idea that all UI can be replaced such that programmers wont be needed for specific apps and other such uses).
Obviously we can’t just separate that but I think its important to think about especially regarding regulation. That’s because I believe that big AI currently is practically begging to be regulated such that the moat to create useful AI becomes so large that no useful open source general purpose AI tools can exist without corporate backing. That’s I think one of their end goals along with making it far more expensive to become a competitor.
That being said this is a little bit out of hand in that this was about software in general, and regarding that and AI, I do believe empathy can be included, and built correctly, a computer system could have a lot more empathy than most human beings who typically only have meaningful empathy towards people they personally empathize with in their actions, which leads to awful systemic discrimination reinforcing practices.
As for the flock example, I think its almost certain they got in with some backroom deals, and in a more fair world… where those still exist somehow, the police department would have a contract with some sort of stipulations regarding what happens with false identifications. The police officers also would not be traumatizing people over stolen property in the first place.
That is all to say, I think that often when software is blamed, what should actually be blamed is the business goals that lead to the creation of that software and the people behind them. The software is after all automation of the will of the owners.
bud this is all tldr.
There are 2 sides that you can vote for in American politics.
That’s not being unable to see nuance, that’s being able to see facts.
You seem stuck on making a point that is irrelevant and increasingly more incorrect.
I can’t care to engage with someone who isn’t reading what I’m saying. It would just be talking past each other.
folks out there, who do these things performatively especially online to gain some social points or something
I actually think that you thinking this is a problem, is a large part of the problem. People refuse to recognize that other people might just have higher or different standards than them, and think it must be in bad faith. This leads to people who generally agree being fizzled out by all the other people they feel are speaking in bad faith (and there are many that are trying to support non leftist opinions tbf), and leads to leftists ending up being unable to realize that they are allies even if they don’t perfectly align. TBF its kinda hard to see someone shitting on you (as they think you’re a baddie with the fizzled out feather light triggers), but we kinda have to try to figure out how to do that, because otherwise, being a shitty human being is just a winning formula when they have a much easier time forming alliances because they can base their entire identities around hating some people for no good reason.
Your post starts with a sloganeering, hyper-reductive take of what I wrote.
This is such a hopelessly lazy dismissal of that criticism I’m just going to ignore it and hope you have anything better to offer.
Nope. Skimmed through it and you’re still making the same strawman argument. I guess there is nothing more to say here if you don’t recognize it.
Burden of proof? You literally just made your first point about anything I said, I shouldn’t have even wasted the time responding.
You are really staking your argument on thinking companies don’t get consequences for software fuckups?
I’m sure you’ll make up some excuses for why somehow none of these count, but the list is so deep you could debate every example here and 10 more would pop up. Tons more happens behind the scenes too with SLA contracts etc.
This sounds like you knew you were wrong all along but still wanted to be a snide, condescending, and undeservedly arrogant about it.
The fact that some don’t doesn’t mean that none do.
You go do some leg work before requesting it of me after thinking you could just troll your way out of your ridiculous initial comment
Reading your other comments outside this thread, this whole chain seems so illogical. What triggered this bizarre emotional reaction to such a relatively innocuous comment? You must have been reading something in.
I swear to god lemmy has the highest ratio of angsty purity testers I’ve ever seen.
I’ve never been any place online where people hate other people that match with them like 99% of the way so god damn much.
This is Politics, it’s not 1D or 2D, it’s N-Dimensional
This is the point I made and that your comment ignored.
it’s not just possible but pretty much a Mathematical certainty than in a country were there are only 2 parties they will match perfectly on some dimensions, even whilst not at all matching in others.
This is a strawman. No person is claiming they don’t have any aligning opinions.
Trying to dismiss away that aspect of Reality (which is incoveninent for tribalists) with sloganeering like “bothsiderism” is just parroting propaganda meant for simpletons who see reality as having just one dimension where there is nothing more than 2 sides.
This is you continuing to argue against the strawman.
The rest is also that.
With the amount you’ve typed you could have easily typed a rationale. The truth is your opinions don’t hold weight and have no good rationale. That is all.
They are fine with this trade
This is pure pseudo intellectualism because you literally have no argument or point.
You have no reasoning and are projecting that onto me because you can’t explain this opinion your feelings have brought you to.
This bothsiderism is pretty thoughtless.
It is true that both contribute to a surveillance state but to equate both is to just ignore all policy differences, actions and more to pretend to be nuanced while painting everything as the same shade of grey, which is a downgrade to even black and white thinking.
Just 1 part of the misunderstandings. Both can go to either area even if they are typically found in their respective ones.
Further, most who have herpes, even in the crotch region, will still show no recognizable symptoms and be difficult to test for.
Again, especially considering that condoms are not practically effective for preventing spread, and the results are typically not the horrendous cases you’ll have remembered, the stigma still isn’t worth it.
I mean, I suppose you could osculate and perform cunnilingus with dental damns, fellatio with condoms and no contact, and copulate and or engage in anal coitus in full body latex, but let’s be real, because you won’t be doing that, and most people who have it wont know they do, its the stigma that’s the biggest problem; the same fear that drives knee-jerk reactions.