You do realize there are plenty of exhaust systems that aren’t absurdly loud, right? There is a whole middle ground between silent and too loud.
You do realize there are plenty of exhaust systems that aren’t absurdly loud, right? There is a whole middle ground between silent and too loud.
I’m with you. I love when a car has a good sounding exhaust.


I had one when they launched, and it was terrible then. I can’t imagine it being better now, but I’m damn interested in that idea being tested!


Well said.


Yeah, we get it. Canadian’s hate American’s now. That’s fine.


I was also looking at the 17, and it looks like a great option. A 16 pro might also be a good option


I absolutely get what you’re saying, and a good part of me agrees with you. Here is the thing, I’m tired boss. I’ve made an effort my whole life to use open source, privacy friendly everything.
I’m now to the point where I don’t have time for messing with phones. Fixing broken stuff, compatibility, etc etc.
I need a powerful phone with a great camera that just works.


I’ve only ever used Android, dating back to the T-Mobile G1. I think I’m now ready to switch to iPhone. If I’m going to be pigeonholed into a completely walled garden, it might as well be with a company that knows what they are doing.
I really don’t want to switch, but probably will for my next upgrade.
I’m honestly surprised by how good it seems to be!