Not true. Starlink are in a very low orbit and regularly (1 or 2 a day) will simply burn up themselves as they fall out of orbit.

Not to be mean, but I think you’re approaching this from a place of pretty immense privilege, where it’s possible to sidestep the fact that the “stability” and social care you’re talking about are materially predicated on the largest, most advanced, and most comprehensive immiseration machine in human history, currently headed by the US and enforced by its hunting dogs.

I understand what you’re saying about intent, but I think you’re putting far too much weight on intent and far too little on material outcomes. From the perspective of people in the periphery, whether harm is done out of malice, fear, or ignorance doesn’t change the harm itself. The status quo imposed by the imperial core is anything but neutral; it is actively sustained through extraction, coercion, and violence, regardless of how polite or well-meaning its defenders may be.

The claim that Liberal voters “aren’t thinking about” neocolonialism doesn’t really mitigate anything. Apathy and ignorance aren’t accidental flaws of the system, they’re systematically reinforced. Liberal politics trains people to narrow their moral horizon to national borders and to treat global suffering as unfortunate but external. Wanting stability at home while refusing to interrogate how that stability is financed is still a political choice, even if it feels passive or unavoidable.

I’m about to make an inflammatory comparison, and before it’s taken the wrong way I want to be clear that I’m not calling you, or Liberal voters, Nazis of any kind.

What I’m pointing to is a similar moral logic to the “clean Wehrmacht,” but applied to liberalism: the idea that all the real harm belongs to the obvious villains, while those who uphold the same system in a more moderate, respectable way are merely ignorant, apolitical, or trying their best. That framing launders responsibility. It treats liberal participation as an unfortunate accident rather than a core function.

From the standpoint of those who live with the consequences of your stability, calling it “misguided but not bad” reads as a refusal to take structural violence seriously.

I am talking about how the status quo of the entirety of the imperial core is built on and sustained by the pillaging and superxploitation of the periphery through imperialism and neocolonialism.

The status quo is bad if you view us of the periphery as equal humans whose suffering matters the same as you.

What party line? It’s the truth? He’s in the Epstein files begging to go “party” on the island. He hit multiple nazi salutes on camera. It’s not a line it’s a statement of fact Elon Musk is a nazi pedophile.

Bad faith is when people point out my idol is fucking evil.

I never said you lied about being to China that’s impossible for me to know. You are lieing about China and how everything is like here however. Please try to do less strawmen you ignorant bastard.

Lmao I was right you don’t know shit. I sincerely hope you either reflect and become a better person or follow your leader lmao.

“verifiably true” just like “social credit score” and Winnie the pooh being banned completely from China.

Chauvinist losers like you used to try harder. I hope you reflect on yourself and become a better person.

Believe it or don’t you chauvinist ass doesn’t change the reality. I talk politics online and in person with everyone from DiDi drivers to friends and family to small talk with strangers. I and my parents have seen our hometown go from desperate poverty to a semi affluent area with good connections to nearby major cities. You are an arrogant loser who talks with such authority with an understanding thinner than a sheet of paper. The vast majority of Chinese people support/trust the government even western institutionsbseebthat and put it at 70-95%. So take your uneducated vendetta and fuck off.

I’m Chinese in China and you’re uneducated and lying.

But you are the ignorant one? You don’t understand China at all.

五毛 is the Chinese for 50 cents. They are saying you get paid 50 cent per comment. On the English net from what I’ve seen it’s mostly used by sinophobes in place of saying you’re a Chinese bot which most end up adding anyway.

In the sense that you know it it isn’t real. Its simply a system that stops those in debt who can’t/refuse to pay it back from buying luxuries like five-star hotel rooms and first-class seats on trains. You can still buy coach and standard rooms just not luxuries. I don’t know all the specifics as I’m neither a lawyer nor have I had to deal with it personally.

Him being a nazi pedophile is probably what most people take issue with.

Russia isn’t imperialist. Imperialism isn’t when invasion or when big country is bad

Authoritarian is a useless pejorative as every nation that has been or currently is is “authoritarian”.

I directly quoted you. You said and again I quote

Tankies thinking they are true left never stops to entertain me

Why continue to humiliate yourself by just lying when it’s publicly available?

You are not a serious person at all clearly.

Because we of the global south aren’t humans to treatlerites like this, our pain suffering and exploitation is simply how things are and thus doesn’t matter.

Tankies thinking they are true left never stops to entertain me

I didnt define anything

You clearly imply “tankies” aren’t real leftists. Stop lying.

Also a Chinese person using Chinese characters is wrong? Nice racism.

You’re a loser.

Using tankie in the modern age just shows how unserious you are. Also who are you to decide what real leftism is? Where is your party? Where is your revolution? Where is your theory and practice?

Typical 白左

Ah ok thank you