Is that Apples argument though? I read the article but now its locked behind a paywall so I can’t re-read.

But your lay terms example isn’t exactly what happened according to the article. What Google did would be akin to buying a PC with Ubuntu on it, but where Google has made deals with Canonical to make their app store default. You can still use Canonical’s Ubuntu snAPP store, or flatpaks, dpkg -i, etc. But the simple fact that Google paid money to Canonical to make their Google app store the default is what the court is saying is anti-competitive.

The thing is: I dont necessarily disagree with that assessment. I think the court may have gotten this correct. Large companies have been using tactics like this for decades at this point to cement their position/fend off competition. It’s the definition of anti-competitive.

My point is that Apple, by completely refusing to allow “side loading”/other app stores on their devices has somehow sidestepped “anti-competitive” regulation here. It’s almost like it wasn’t ‘overt’ enough? Maybe because money didn’t change hands. Again, I am not a lawyer, but its hard to argue that not allowing other services or apps onto your system is good for competition. Maybe thats the rub? Maybe not being good for competition and being anti-competitive are legally different things? Maybe its because Google to an “overt action” and used their position, money, and influence to make deals to stifle competition, but Apple has it’s “safety and security” , “people pay for our walled garden”, “our walled ecosystem is the product” arguments.

edit: by the way this seems like it would set a legal precedence that Google will get beat up for again which might screw over A LOT of us. If what Google did here is bad, then Google paying Firefox, Apple, or whoever money to make their web search the default, seems like it’d fall into similar legal territory.

I know Firefox basically only survives because of Google’s payments for search supremacy.

This is so wild. Google allows side loading and 3rd party app stores…and that is the reason they were found guilty.

Unlike Apple, Google allows people to download apps onto phones running its Android operating system without going through its official app store, but the company strikes deals with phone manufacturers to favor Google’s official app store.

So because they strike deals to favor their store, even though they allow 3rd party stores to begin with, they’ve violated the SAA.

Meanwhile, Apple who refuses to allow competition or 3rd party app stores is sitting pretty because…well, they haven’t “favored” their own store over rival stores. BECAUSE RIVAL STORES CANT EXIST. I don’t know how you could favor your store any harder than that??

The legal shenanigans around all of this are frustrating to watch as a lay person.

It feels like we are at the “Linux phone daily driver” equivalent to 2004 Linux desktop right now. It’s probably a decade or more away from being a useable device.

It needs a champion–an Ubuntu or Redhat to drive it but the economics of open source being what they are, means it’s probably not worth the effort. Whoever does it needs to provide quality hardware with it imo. Maybe a system76-type company for phones?

If whoever takes up the mantel can nail the camera and video, they could potentially over one all of the other weaknesses of Linux phones (like shit maps/directions, and lack of support for things like banking apps).

I just ROCm was built in to mesa. Because either you use the proprietary drivers that have some issues, or use mesa and fight with everything (amf, ROCm) to try and get it working.

It’s the Internet. People who participate in good faith discussions probably aren’t downvoting willy nilly. Everyone else isn’t going to be swayed or give meaningful feedback anyway.

Downvoted get abused a lot where they exist. People dog pile pretty quickly. It seems like an image human characteristic. It’s just a fickle mob. The smaller the community, where members know each other by handle, are usually the best for actual discussions.

Wasn’t the rule for one of the more popular Usenet groups: rule 1. Don’t be annoying 2. Don’t be easily annoyed

Tbh, that’s a pretty great foundation for any interactions on the web.

I’ve heard the argument that we don’t really have a good definition of thinking or intelligence and if it can complete a task or do things…what does it matter if it’s “thinking” or not if the outcome is the same.

I’ve also had updates on the Linux side cause the bitlocker stuff to freak out and require a recovery code with sharing a boot partition.

Wired has a good review on it:

Where the Lemur Pro really shines is battery life. System76 claims 14 hours, and I managed 11 hours in our battery drain test (looping a 1080p video). In real-world use, I frequently eked out over 13 hours. That’s off the charts better than any other Linux laptop I’ve tested recently.

https://www.wired.com/review/system-76-lemur-pro-laptop/

If you aren’t interested in MacBooks, this imo is one of the best alternatives–especially if battery life is a high priority.

https://system76.com/laptops/lemur

14 hours of battery life. Linux out of the box and even has coreboot if you care about that sort of thing.

I have an old drive with it in there. The drive is going bad so I haven’t messed with it too much. I never knew at the time why the development and shine faded so quickly.

So are breed characteristics. It’s like people tout breed characteristics…until pit bulls. Then it’s like "no way! Mine wouldn’t hurt a fly!

Yea, that may be true but they were breed to hurt more than flies and we did a good job of it.

Dachshunds have breed characteristics, Chihuahuas have breed characteristics, Labradors have breed characteristics, golden retrievers have breed characteristics, greyhounds, etc. It’s almost like they were “bred” to bring out specific traits–both physical and behavioral.

Pitbull advocates act like they don’t exist or downplay their role in the breeds behavior. It’s bullshit. Pitbulls, as a breed, shouldn’t exist.

What’s rpn and how does base 12 work.

Don’t you still have “numbers” between 11 and 12?

I think that’s actually been proven at this point hasn’t it?

Cobol devs that we had (while we spent insane money to retire their systems) we’re getting 300-500k/year.

I’m sure companies are trying to rip off any young new entrants but 90k seems super low.

I ended up briefing some very senior leadership…in a hoody.

I brief that specific group on a regular basis and it’s usually fairly laid back but this particular meeting a new, very high profile person was attending to get up to speed. Apparently everyone knew but me because they were suited up and all of the ladies were wearing makeup and had their hair all nice. And there I was, the lead brief, in my hoody and jeans and scruffy beard.

After the meeting I realized that it probably worked in my favor. Some sort of psychological “this guy must be really good because he dgaf about dressing to impress”.

Plus I think their is exactly as you said a stereotype that the better you are at your IT stuff the less put together you have to be.

And it has vim motions!?

How many widgets have we transferred to acme this year?

Simple enough question right?

But then when you look at the data, each region works with acme’s local offices differently. Some transfer using one method, some offices mark the transfer in the system as “other firm”. Oh, and we don’t even get a data feed from the north west region because they still haven’t upgraded their shit so I can request a spreadsheet but it’s in a different format than everything else.

Then inevitably Acme has a different number of widgets that have been transfered. Because if a transfer gets kicked back or cancelled, it’s easier to just create a new transfer rather than go fix an old one because that process is laborious and requires tons of approvals so they just create a new transfer and send it over.

But yea, 20 minutes should be enough time to get you that before your meeting with Acme.

That’s exactly how you should respond. I’ve been on the requester for some of these and if my team gave me that as a response I’d just say “let me know what you find out or when you know more.”

It’s not a bad thing. I was just saying that’s probably why they are doing it.

Everyone is getting super protective about “their” data now.

Oh yea, GitHub copilot is pretty nice too. (trained on all those repos!)

I realize this is a “hate on GitHub” thread so I’m gonna get downvoted for this post too but it does everything I need it to do, the documentation is fantastic, and it’s the “defacto” repo for a lot of stuff.