I’d say never rule out just stupid. Even when you try and make something idiot proof, nature just invents a better idiot. Conspiracies are hard to hold together as people are leaky. I find easier to believe in mass stupidity than mass conspiracies.

I guess there is the old “never assign to malice what can be adequately be explained by stupidity” to consider.

This is revenge. It will just create a whole new generation of Hamas. It won’t help peace. The previous peace wasn’t really peace but dominance. For real peace, to stop the murder of both sides, there needs to be a peace process. The nutters of sides need to be sidelined and even face a just justice system.

I had read chocolated and was amused. Yes, colated does remove some of the protection. But Israel has to prove that. There will be problems if there is no evidence and/or internal doubts from intelligence appear.

Other than as part of collective punishment, I don’t think colocated facility is especially contentious.

Edit: I read chocolate and cut and passed it because I thought chocolated was amusing. Tired dyslexic brain text processing. Co-located does remove some of the protections.

Yes I’m sure they do. However the answer isn’t to respond with more war crimes. It just keeps escalating and innocent people keep dying. It also feeds the nutters on both sides, swelling their numbers and influence.

Those same facilities are used by civilians. It really seams about giving Palestinians the choices of submit, leave or die. This is not the road to peace.

More likely the anger being created will feed ever more extremism. Beating a people into peaceful submission doesn’t work. Let alone is barbaric.

They are religious nutters, they don’t care about their own death, or the deaths of thousands of Palestinians. If anything, they want Israel to attack Palestine and kill thousands, and create rage that creates more Hamas. Hamas isn’t only fed by Palestinians. It can’t be defeated by military might. That’s like “the beatings will continue until morale improves”.

It doesn’t take much sanity to see nuking would be a terrible idea.

There are some who are calling for it to be the end of Palestinians. Nuking them and other means of clearing the land.

You never run out of idiots. They will be coming to Palestinian to fight. Young men are prone to look for causes to fight for and there is a real injustice happening to Palestine.

Israel can’t just kill it’s way to peace. No justice, no peace.

Hamas aren’t helping the Palestinian cause either because they are clearly terrorist nutters.

Some solution has to be found. If Israel just empties Palestine of Palestinians and claims it all as Israel, that won’t give them the safety they want from attacks by nutters. The crazy thing that is, there are right wing nutters in Israel wanting to exactly that. Ethnic cleansing is no way to peace. Even the US won’t support them doing that. Even doing it salami slicing with nutty settlers isn’t going unnoticed.

There needs to be a justice system to deal with nutters. You can’t deal with harsh collective punishment. It’s a nutters response that just creates more nutters on the other side. Which nutters of the side partly want to justify their own nuttiness and to create more of them on their own side.

You give people unchecked power over other people, and it will be abused. Occupying armies, prisons, police, clergy, you name it.

We just aren’t nice monkeys. So power has to be transparent and accountable.

It’s deliberate. If you don’t support Israel’s apartheid of Palestine, you are apparently antisemitic and want Israel destroyed.

Hamas is not helping things. They are bunch of murderous religious nutters. They do want Israel gone. Just like how Israel’s nutters want Palestine gone.

But Hamas are not Palestine anymore than Israel is its religious nutters.

Exactly. When privacy is criminal, only criminals will have privacy.

Oh I found the open source Android Auto stuff for GNU/Linux. Though not use any of the GNU/Linux phones make use of it. It looks better to setup, and develop on, but I very much doubt it would make life easier. Not unless you can seamless run Android apps in a box and them not know.

Wait what? What’s that? I’ve not seen it!

I did for many years too. But I needed Android Auto for a new car. It kind of forced the issue and it wasn’t easy and I’m not happy how custom my install is now.

GrapheneOS does look interesting. Though the Android Auto, that I use as the car satnav (with OSMAnd+), looks like it might be even more a pain to setup…

I can’t get over what a techo-political dystopia is, without a lot of faff. We need some law here, forcing standardized open interfaces! (And copyright trolling DRM pushing dark forces will fight that, because of media playing)

It looks like another closed app “build on open source”. Not sure it’s much more trust worthy than WhatsApp anyway. Need to read up. I wonder if I’m better of exploring open alteratives also set up my own Matrix bridges that Beeper is built on anyway. Though I’ve not heard good things about maintaining Matrix bridges.

I hope the EU get through the forced interoperability of chat apps…