IMHO it’s definetly a hard break with the past design.
But it looks more mature and not as ‘shy’.
It moved the back/forward arrows to the top of the screen where I can barely reach. Why ?
yeah back/forward refresh & share should be at the bottom of this menu
I hate it. It used to be two taps to open a new tab.
Now it’s four taps:
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Open the menu
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Close the menu
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Open tabs
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My muscle memory ain’t going nowhere.
In defense of Mozilla on this one, the new tab button has been in tabs for years now, and it kinda makes sense to be there.
If they’re trying to streamline menus, getting rid of a redundant button is a good start.
You can long press the tab icon to open a new tab. Still 2 taps.
Or tap the tab icon and then the plus icon in the bottom right.
Although I did mainly use the menu method. Will just have to change now.
IMO 2 taps is already one too many
I miss the toolbar that was experimented with for a while in Nightly that had both the new tab button and the forward button visible at all times. But apparently other people hated it.
I still have that, but with the tab bar.
Edit:
Ah neat, is that on a tablet? Maybe it’s decided that my phone screen is too small.
Phone acting as tablet. Settings “smallest width” to 600dp or more triggers tablet mode on Android, which changes certain UI elements to, in my opinion, make more sense on average near 7" smartphones. At least for me as I am a landscape-first user.
So, since I already screwed up my homescreen layout by toggling this now, I’ll give you screenshots to compare between 423 (smallest in regular settings) and 705dp (what I use). 423 on left, 705 on right.
Took me longer than I anticipated, but anyway:
Sorry for the JPEG, original was 18MB.
Notice the difference in keyboard layout, and 3 button navigation with app icons and app drawer.
You should be able to click the image to open it, at least on LemmyUI.
I appreciate the effort! (Indeed looks like that wasn’t quick to put together.) And yes, that looks like you get a bunch more controls on your wider phone.
you can still open a tab with two taps
I completely forgot there was a new tab entry in that menu
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I like it. :-) It always amazes me, that so many people who like free and open software, are so negative about changes. If you really want things your way, then support the software, ad your skills, pay for it, so that the best people can work on it. A little more gratitude for peoples free work, to provide you with great and free software, would be in order.
i don’t mind it, i think it looks good - BUT i just want a tablet ui with a tab bar T_T
For whatever it’s worth, you can enable a movable tab bar in Firefox Nightly for Android.
This will force the tab and omnibar to the top of the screen, however.
Don’t forget this too
Woah I was literally just commenting that I miss that expanded toolbar layout. Unfortunately that option isn’t visible yet in my Nightly, but this indicates that it might not be gone forever, awesome!
Edit: Just enabled Secret Settings and now I have back my beloved toolbar! It’s a bit chunkier than it used to be, but still neat.
Edit 2: ah, and no back/forward buttons, that’s a shame. I’d prefer those over the bookmark button.
Yep, bookmark feels like something no one needs with any regularity.
In the Secret Settings it was named something like “Composable toolbar”, so perhaps we’ll get the ability to customise the contents later.
It’s just because it’s the toolbar rewritten in Jetpack Compose rather than the old one which was written with XML and used a custom parser.
Ah! That makes sense
Neat! seems I need to update!
There’s also some new secret settings for the new toolbar.
Ah! That may be why I don’t see it 😓
I want to import/export bookmarks to HTML and view page source/inspect element in addition to that
Nightly has this so I assume it will come to Firefox sooner or later.
Nightly has multiple app icon too. It’s gimmicky but here.
hm, interesting; i assume fennec is based on release android firefox? i wish nightly had an f-droid release :/ i know i can download the apk but
If the part you dislike is having to manually download updates, then this might be a solution: https://f-droid.org/packages/de.marmaro.krt.ffupdater
ooh awesome i’ll look. yeah i didn’t mind doing the apks for beta or focus but nightly is updated (well duh :P) every night so i just didn’t want to keep remembering.
It’s good but slow. Though I may just be unreasonable.
FFUpdater can keep it updated for you. Sort of a browser-specific app store.
i just tried and it works great; i had accrescent for ironfox but i like this because i can also get rid of the play store for vivaldi.
It’s already not only in Nightly, but Beta too, so probably soon in release.
I just changed it back right when I figured out how.
This is my day 2 of trying Firefox on Android (coming from Opera), so it’s not like I was already used to it.
About Firefox Nightly -> Tap the FF logo a few times -> Secret settings -> Enable menu redesign off
Thank you. I don’t hate the big buttons, but they put the most important ones on the top out of reach frommy thumb. Dumbest decision ever.
If you are not interested in testing the new features why are you using nightly version?
Release doesn’t even have tab bar yet.
Beta does, but only has the new menu and homepage doesn’t count as tab like on desktop and doesn’t support DoH, like on desktop.
Nightly is most feature-complete.
But I’ll have to figure out how to check existing and report new bugs. Search may not work when I hit enter, opening links with Firefox just opens the homepage, only when I click back does it actually open the link, screenshots sometimes don’t work, but only after I go to tab menu and then back, and the bottom-most thing in homepage is cut-off, so I use the stories as padding (might be related to custom high system-wide DPI).
They half assedly implemented it without porting over all features, which is annoying but definitely the Mozilla way.
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And Beta.
Not going to lie, I do not like it.
I prefer menus over panels.
I like the concept. It’d be nice to customise it a bit but I prefer it as more legible / bigger, plus in a decent location for my thumbs.
The old menu was unnecessarily cramped and to one side. This change has potential but isn’t quite right yet.
It also does make much more sense if you move the tab bar to the bottom to complement it (doable.in settings menu).
I like it when buttons can be reached entirely by my thumb without overstretching it. Feel like anything that isn’t that is a design failure.
I like it. It’s better en easier to use than the old one.
Note that I’m using it for multiple months at this point.
The only button i use on a regular basis is the reload page. It moved and i need to re-learn the muscle memory but that’s fine. Also i will most likely be using firefox on samsung’s android XR headset and this panel will work a lot better for that.
Avid nightly user; I’m just starting to get used to it, and I think I it’s better for most users, but I need to regular use the translate feature which doesn’t automatically translate the languages that I need. So that’s a few extra taps for me, and honestly it adds up.
It was mentioned her that their should be some kind of customization, and I would be happy to lose a little bit more of the background to have the translate button on the main menu
Customization would definetly help with such use cases, e.g. letting users replace lesser used buttons like Share or Home with Translation or Addons Menu.
Assuming that’s the menu that is accessed from the tab bar, my first thought is that it doesn’t have everything the current one has. Where are “find in page” and “desktop site”?
That’s right. These are missing because I opened it from the home screen. Here is a better screenshot:
I don’t hate it, but I would REALLY like to be able to move those buttons around. Refresh, share, and forward are hands-down my most used buttons. Having to chase them up feels tedious.
Similarly sign in (or, I’m guessing account once you do sign in) does not need that much real estate.
Finally I’d love to swap Passwords with a shortcut to my password manager of choice (in my case, Bitwarden)
I appreciate the more modern take, but I think it could use some refinement or customization options, similar to dragging things around your toolbar in FF desktop.
I think I like the current one better from a usability perspective because it opens where I can access the whole thing with my thumb without having to stretch. Looks like that might not be the case here but we’ll see I suppose
Don’t mind it, just taking a little bit getting used to because it’s such a big change. My muscle memory for certain things need to be tweaked. But it looks slick, and as far as I can tell the same functionality is there.
I like it, that being said I still really want a quicker way to access my extensions.
