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I am using three drives on that list. Uninstalled KB5063878 and blocked updates for over a month.
I’m using several of them too, but the update refuses to uninstall. Oh well, fingers crossed eh? Thanks Microsoft.
Hmm, mine uninstalled without issue but I haven’t yet fully rebooted. Might still get an error at that point. Fingers crossed.
EDIT: reboot completed without issue. Guess I’ve been lucky. My main drive is not one of the affected ones and I didn’t write anything noteworthy to the affected ones when the update was installed, so should be all good from here out.
God damn, after ~20 years of being off Windows reading about problem after problem on each and every update is exhausting.
How do you all (Windows users) deal with this shit?
I’ve never had an issue of this gravity on Windows. I use Linux and it has its issues as well. Stability is not why I use Linux lmao
Perhaps not stability, but certainly the ability to understand a problem and fix things is why I use Linux. On Windows or MacOS you just get “Oops, something unexpected happened”, or if youre lucky “Error -2847”.
On linux you can read the journalctl or have a poke in /var/log/ and actually find an answer that’s more helpful than “reinstall the operating system / program”
as far as I know, Debian is the “gold standard” for stable linux to the point of being one of the most famous distros used on servers as well.
Exceptions are using unstable/testing versions of debian or accounting for an windows program to just work perfectly under wine (but that is a microsoft-linux integration which MS almost always wants to not happen)
The amazing thing about Linux is there are distros for any purpose. If you want stability there are distros focused on that. Yeah, the popular ones are often bleeding edge, or near bleeding edge, but you don’t have to use one that’s using the latest updates.
Stability is why I use an atomic distro
You use the wrong linux then.
No, they all have their issues. That is the very definition of linux.
In what way? The most stable Linux is far better than what Microsoft could yank out of their AI asses. Debian and Red Hat has been the staple of many servers around the globe. Hell, this Lemmy instance might be on one of those.
It’s only when you tinker around too hard and fast then you have problems in Linux. But there are ways to get things back on track easily compared to Windows.
I usually restart my gentoo machines when I move or once every couple of years when I update them. Debian stable is pretty similar.
Wait 3 weeks before applying updates and let other people be the guinea pigs. It’s usually enough time for things like this to be caught and withdrawn by MS.
I delayed the 24h2 update as long as Windows physically let me which was like a month or two I think? After that delay ended my only option was to download cause it was popping up in an intrusive way every single hour… God I hate windows so much.
Same way as I do on Linux. There was a post a few weeks back about an Arch update breaking vlc if you don’t manually install a new optional dependency after an update split the package.
Arch has always broke. Arch will always break.
Whatever doesn’t break makes us stronger (at using the Archwiki)
Because I haven’t had these issues in 20+ years? 🤡
Most people don’t have this issue. You are only reading about the less than 1%. Per usual, everything posted her is overblown and the linux trolls feed on it.
Crying, sniffling, more crying, over eating, crying some more, and existential dread. Then I go to work and pretend it will just magical go away, become delusional, go home, and start the process all over again.
I might need therapy.
By not using newest microsoft stuff. I’m always few years late to their next windows.
This is the first Windows update that has significantly altered how my daily driver laptop works (read: for the worse).
It’s too inconvenient to use a Windows computer anymore. I’m switching to Linux
Haven’t updated to windows 11 yet and probably won’t. Just gonna wait until I can afford a new PC then learn how to install Linux
There’s nothing to learn. Mint and Fedora were click click done.
bashing the executable
three instances of Battlefield 6 load up
“ss-seethe, linux-turds!!”
gpu explodes from poor driver implementation
browser renames itself
Just vibecoding a kernel module, nothing out of the ordinary at Microsoft.
Ouch. Glad I don’t run Windows 11…
windows quality has seemingly took a nosedive after 7 and never recovered. glad to have left.
If windows 7 was still supported it would be my go to for the rare “I need windows” moments. Windows 11 seems sluggish to me
It would be fun if your next “I need Windows” OS was ReactOS and have less problems than using Windows.
windows 11 is just ridiculous. it’s slow even on state of the art computers, takes 6-8gb of ram just to idle on the damn desktop.
I got my father onto Linux a while ago and the first thing he commented on was how snappy the whole system was
Same thing for one of my grandparents.
I thought 10 was fine too, didn’t like the new menu bullshit though. I use Arch by the way.
10 was the last windows version i dailied on my personal machine. the whole forced update fiasco had made me lose work, and was the writing on the wall for shitty things that came after.
I was able to roll-back this update. But my computer is still running Windows. Help!
Start looking into desktop environments, everyones quick to suggest distros, but de imo is more what matters day to day, most distros just work and will help you grab the same stuff in different background ways and/or with different terminal commands.
They should all have de options or have community alternatives of them that come with a certain de like kde or gnome.
Close to windows, minimal customization (still more than default windows
Cinnamon
Iphone + cydia, opinionated base experience with extensions that can completely change the look and add stuff like panels/dock
gnome + extension store
Windows but ultra customizable, tons of settings and directly customizable from the ui itself by right clicking
kde plasma
Keyboard user, hand always on it, like shortcuts and code editor based customization with documentation
hyprland
Solid advice!
And remember that “DE hopping” is much easier than distro hopping, as you can install multiple and try them out without reinstalling your system.
Personally I’m a shill for Plasma, as I think that their motto “simple by default, powerful when needed” is very true. Out of the box, you get a grandma-ready UX that’s pretty intuitive to any Windows or Mac user, but once you start to dig in there’s so many “power user” features. Now every time I’m on a different system I instantly miss all the little QoL that I never even think about, and almost everything is neatly packaged in the system settings or context menus, without having to install extensions or set up a dozen different components
Imo plasma settings/options can be a bit overwhelming, cinnamon can be underwhelming lol, as a former cydia user, I really like toggleable extensions with indidual settings that can be as complex/basic as they need to be.
My main issue with plasma is I cant stop tinkering with my theme/ui because the settings are so easily accesible. I get distracted easily. Gnome with a few curated extensions helps me focus, realized on accident using it because davinci resolve had issues on kde plasma using the global menu (didn’t resolve after removing the menu)
What does NG Lv 1 mean?
I’ve read in another article that NG Lv 1 means that the drive is recoverable and NG Lv 2 that the drive is unrecoverable.
Oh look a whole new reason to avoid windows 11.
All of my computers are working just fine.
Same, thankfully 🫣
Is your drive 60% or more full and have you tried to transfer something 50gb or larger? From what I saw, those are some of the triggers.
No but my drive uses Linux not Windows. I wonder if that helps.
Is this 100% an OS issue, or a hardware issue just being made apparent by the OS doing something weird?
Most likely an hardware issue, ZFS has seen similar types of corruption with certain drives under normal operation.
That makes sense.
While windows doing a bunch of IO is silly and probably could be more efficient, it sounds like the blame is the SSD controllers crapping out when asked to do exactly what they advertise they are supposed to do (high throughput IO).
*Glares at work computer
WELL…? WE’RE WAITING.gif
And the worst part is even if it succeeds you’re still running Windows.
Sounds like shit drives are half of the problem?
Please hit my work computer plz plz plz
Just update, find a script to repeatedly write a 50gb file filled with garbage, and pray it kills your drive.
I know this is mostly a joke but most corporate security monitor the running scripts
Well, do it manually then! Without internet, you can’t send any tracking to the corporate, and without a working drive the data will be unreadable after you are done ;)
Even though switching my laptop to Linux was a bit of a pain, especially for other family members, i didn’t regret it at all before. This just makes it even more reassuring as the right move.
Even the programs I had that rely on windoze I just run in wine or in a small vm.
If you can switch, do it!