Presidents Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin have been caught on a live microphone talking about the potential of medicine to extend human life spans and "perhaps even achieve immortality".

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A live-stream broadcast of China’s military parade has captured Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin discussing biotechnology’s potential to extend life.

An interpreter translating Mr Putin can be heard saying in Mandarin that human organ transplants could let “us live younger and younger, and perhaps even achieve immortality”.

Mr Xi responded that it may be possible for people to live to 150 years this century.

  • ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    26·
    2 days ago

    Apart from the fact that your brain ages too and it’s 100% irreplaceable, the main issue with turning yourself into the human Ship of Theseus is that you’re going to be on immunosuppressant drugs forever.

    I guess if you were a monster you could raise clones of yourself to adulthood and then murder them for their body parts. This doesn’t solve the problem of some parts not being reasonably replaceable, but it could protect you from some organ failures.

    • Zer0_F0x@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      2 days ago

      There are current studies about growing entire organs in a lab environment using 3D printed scaffolding and stem cells harvested from the patient, so the final product is 100% compatible and eliminates the need for immunosuppressants.

      Still a few decades out for human testing imo but they’d be the first in line.

      If we figure that out, artificial blood (which is already making good progress) and finally a way to regenerate brain cells without causing massive brain tumors we can extend life considerably, probably closer to 200 years on extreme cases.

      Or, at least, making it to 110 while still having a good quality of life, basically making 100 the new 60.

      • LustyArgonian@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        2 days ago

        Lol, lmfao

        They can’t even give us a relatively nontoxic living environment and adaptive and responsive nutrition plans

        Not to mention there has NEVER been a patient who has had MULTIPLE 3D printed organ transplants, let alone continuous transplants PRN (the suture sites are going to be dissolving scar tissue). And that 3D printed organs are extremely complicated especially depending on which one is being built, with their own cellular memory including circadian rhythm and local homeostasis.

        Not to mention that merely transplanting an organ does not mean the patient will have adequate neurochemicals or enzymes or receptors to carry out the processes needed to support these organs, regardless of supplementation

        Like certain conditions, at end of life, oppose each other especially in treatment. Eg congestive heart failure, pulmonary edema, and kidney failure all interfere and interact with each other. Assuming you could successfully perform a lung, heart, and kidney transplant in a geriatric patient, whose to say their veings, connective tissue, ureters, etc won’t prolapse or blow out from all the pressure and new stressers?

        This shit isn’t as easy as they want to claim (maybe they want to taunt Trump with immortality), but if they want to be the guinea pigs for it, let them ig - that’s the most ethical thing they could do with this, is experiment on themselves and take the consequences.

    • LustyArgonian@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      2 days ago

      I think if ALL, literally ALL of your other organs were functioning great, then it is unlikely your brain will deterioriate by itself randomly. Your body is constantly repairing itself, that’s why we are able to live so long.

      But like, are they REALLY going to transplant things like the thymus? Can they even do that? Adrenal glands, parathyroid glands, thyroid, kidneys, livers, pancreas - idk man, I do not see these people getting all these organs replaced. That is an INSANE bodily experiment that has never truly been tested, let alone with lab grown organs (as Xi or Putin suggested), let alone in elderly and delicate subjects. We can’t even pull off natural looking facelifts in most subjects.

      Adding in organs with different ages and donors also means they also may have increased loads on their remaining old aged organs too. Everything works together and donor organs can have a different circadian rhythm, let alone different genes which means different reactions to stimuli. Not to mention currently the most likely situation for organ transplant would be gene editing animal organs - again, experimental and never done on multiple organs. https://hms.harvard.edu/news/first-genetically-edited-pig-kidney-transplanted-human

      Like managing multiple organ rejections in a 90yr old seeking immortality sounds like a joke of a case for any health care provider.

      But please, someone convince both those men to get multiple organs transplanted ASAP