People seem to forget that Muslims are allowed to touch pork products, they’re just not allowed to pray after touching them unless they ritualistically purify themselves by washing their hands, mouth, nose, face, forearms, head, ears and feet (the order is different as well as what parts you wash in different schools of thought).
Doing all that is a bit of a kerfuffle so a good number of Muslims just choose to avoid touching anything that could invalidate their purity, but the worst that can happen is they have to wash themselves again before they pray.
Obviously they’re not allowed to eat it, but it’s nowhere near as bad as racists would have you think where even being in the presence of pork products is enough to make Muslims melt into the floor like the wicked witch.
even being in the presence of pork products is enough to make Muslims melt into the floor like the wicked witch
Some Muslims really are like that. The ones who are, are usually from the more backward countries.
But Islam also says that if you’re starving and pork is the only available food, eat the pork.
Alcohol, on the other hand, is a hard no.
Now in my view, I don’t see how any religion that forbids carnitas can possibly be divinely inspired.
Even so, I’ve never met an Islamophobe who isn’t a raving asshole, but I’ve met a number of Muslims who are good people, even if I don’t agree with some of their religious prohibitions.
Yes, though it is preferred not to be the drinkable kind. Without giving a fatwa (religious verdict) the way to think of it is the goal is to not drink alcohol. In particular is highlighted to not get drunk or addicted to it, but of course there may be other subtending reasons too. Intentions matter greatly in islam; it’s generally very practical.
At the same time the prohibition against drinkable alcohol in islam is so strong even the people who buy/sell, or even serve alcohol are considered sinning so best to stay well clear. That’s why there is such a distaste for the stuff in islamic culture, but for practical purposes as a chemical it can be extremely useful.
It could also be argued that it naturally appears in some foods (like overripe bananas I believe), but of course those probably aren’t haram as you’re likely not going to suffer the same effects.
Yes, it’s just consumption of alcoholic foodstuffs that’s proscribed. It might get murky if you’re dealing with some really regressive people and you’re also sanitizing with burbon, but otherwise it’s a pretty settled topic.
Interesting. My city has many breweries of local spirits so when we were low on hand sanitizers during COVID, the government allowed these breweries to make their own sanitizers.
It probably would have been nice to include a warning label for our Muslim friends saying that these products might not be allowed for them to use!
If your local distilleries were anything like mine, the sanitizer they produced was denatured, even the most absurdly orthodox would have had shaky grounds to complain (naturally done too, they just didn’t separate the methanol when distilling). So no worries there!
Not to be that guy, but the ablution process is mandatory regardless of what you’ve touched. Unless you’ve touched some najis stuff then you gotta clean it first before doing ablution.
People seem to forget that Muslims are allowed to touch pork products, they’re just not allowed to pray after touching them unless they ritualistically purify themselves by washing their hands, mouth, nose, face, forearms, head, ears and feet (the order is different as well as what parts you wash in different schools of thought).
Doing all that is a bit of a kerfuffle so a good number of Muslims just choose to avoid touching anything that could invalidate their purity, but the worst that can happen is they have to wash themselves again before they pray.
Obviously they’re not allowed to eat it, but it’s nowhere near as bad as racists would have you think where even being in the presence of pork products is enough to make Muslims melt into the floor like the wicked witch.
Some Muslims really are like that. The ones who are, are usually from the more backward countries.
But Islam also says that if you’re starving and pork is the only available food, eat the pork.
Alcohol, on the other hand, is a hard no.
Now in my view, I don’t see how any religion that forbids carnitas can possibly be divinely inspired.
Even so, I’ve never met an Islamophobe who isn’t a raving asshole, but I’ve met a number of Muslims who are good people, even if I don’t agree with some of their religious prohibitions.
I work with some pretty chill Muslims, and some pretty chill Christians. I don’t get why it’s so hard for some people to just be respectful.
Are Muslims allowed to sanitize with alcohol?
Yes, though it is preferred not to be the drinkable kind. Without giving a fatwa (religious verdict) the way to think of it is the goal is to not drink alcohol. In particular is highlighted to not get drunk or addicted to it, but of course there may be other subtending reasons too. Intentions matter greatly in islam; it’s generally very practical.
At the same time the prohibition against drinkable alcohol in islam is so strong even the people who buy/sell, or even serve alcohol are considered sinning so best to stay well clear. That’s why there is such a distaste for the stuff in islamic culture, but for practical purposes as a chemical it can be extremely useful.
It could also be argued that it naturally appears in some foods (like overripe bananas I believe), but of course those probably aren’t haram as you’re likely not going to suffer the same effects.
Allah knows best.
Yes, it’s just consumption of alcoholic foodstuffs that’s proscribed. It might get murky if you’re dealing with some really regressive people and you’re also sanitizing with burbon, but otherwise it’s a pretty settled topic.
Interesting. My city has many breweries of local spirits so when we were low on hand sanitizers during COVID, the government allowed these breweries to make their own sanitizers.
It probably would have been nice to include a warning label for our Muslim friends saying that these products might not be allowed for them to use!
If your local distilleries were anything like mine, the sanitizer they produced was denatured, even the most absurdly orthodox would have had shaky grounds to complain (naturally done too, they just didn’t separate the methanol when distilling). So no worries there!
Not to be that guy, but the ablution process is mandatory regardless of what you’ve touched. Unless you’ve touched some najis stuff then you gotta clean it first before doing ablution.