• RobotToaster@mander.xyz
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    25 days ago

    They support liberalism, not leftism.

    They like making a big deal out of their tokenistic support of LGBT/BIPOC/etc, to distract from them trampling over workers rights.

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      25 days ago

      They support liberalism

      No they don’t. They only support making money and cornering markets for themselves. They’ll take corporate socialism and using the law to crush opinions. The idea that they “support” anything ideological is utterly wrong.

      Anticipating somebody’s response:

      Exactly. You just described liberalism.

      No I didn’t. Corporations have no ideology. It’s pure warfare and there are no rules or values beyond making money for themselves, not on any larger societal scale. They’re just algorithms for increasing profit.

      to distract from them trampling over workers rights.

      100% yes

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        “Corporate socialism” does not exist. Corporations push liberalism as a part of cultural hegemony, as does the state. Capital does not care about anything but profit, but cultural hegemony is the means to protect property relations.

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          25 days ago

          Corporate socialism is when the government gives them our tax dollars to totalize top-down control. That’s not liberalism, that’s just power. They’ll trample “liberalism” to make a dollar.

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            25 days ago

            That’s not what socialism is to begin with, that’s just the state within capitalism affirming corporate power, which is a part of liberalism. “Liberalism” has always generally been that which affirms capitalism, ideologically, it isn’t a moral code.

            Using taxes for things isn’t socialism, socialism is a mode of production where public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy.

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              That’s not what socialism is to begin with

              But that’s what corporate socialism is

              “Liberalism” has always generally been that which affirms capitalism

              That’s one function of it (in context) but that’s not the definition. That’s not “what it is.” Also, these corporations would trample capitalism itself to gain more power.

              socialism is a mode of production where public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy.

              I’m not talking about socialism, I’m talking about corporate socialism, which is not a form of socialism. It’s a term which demonstrates how anti-liberal and anti-meritocratic and even anti-capitalist the top-down government-corporate control network is.