• 46_and_2@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    8
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    1 day ago

    If she’s so sick of it, and they’re not doing anything about it, why does she still stay on Reddit?

    Also, why are you re-posting this Reddit-specific drama on Lemmy? Let her make an account and post her stuff if she wants

    • Zink@programming.dev
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      22 hours ago

      The act of complaining constantly while not doing anything about it is a huge part of what I dislike about the angry white conservative culture I grew up in. It’s such a widespread cultural issue, and while it fits my conservative family members like a glove, it is not unique to them.

    • Mulligrubs@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      22 hours ago

      Is Reddit-specific drama frowned upon here? I was hoping to make fun of reddit, I guess I’ll just die

  • BilSabab@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    15
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    2 days ago

    The same reddit that allowed to nuke my account based on false bot claims and then refused to roll it back even though the perpetrators conveniently deleted their accounts shortly afterwards? checks out

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      edit-2
      1 day ago

      Reddit Admins hate user interactions. User interactions cost more money to oversee than passive readers.

      Much of Reddit policy boils down to “get unsponsored users off our platform”. They don’t want your comments. They don’t want your posts. They don’t want your drama. They don’t want your input. They want you to show up, look at the sponsored links, maybe click a few, validate the advertisers’ spending on media influence, then keep fucking scrolling.

      If you’re doing anything other than that, you’re a net lose to the company and you are uninvited from the platform.

      Its a bit like going into a casino and winning money. Casinos don’t exist to pay you. Social Media doesn’t exist to platform you. You’re supposed to be a revenue generator, not a cost center. If you behave otherwise, the business will cut you just like they try to cut every other net-negative expense.

      • BilSabab@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 day ago

        makes sense. too bad reddit turned out that way though. but then again - was there ever a platform that didn’t went to shit? Steve Hoffman’s forum is probably the only place that dodged the bullet mostly because it’s a bunch of nerds comparing high frequencies on Frank Zappa remasters

        • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 day ago

          was there ever a platform that didn’t went to shit?

          I guess you can argue that 4chan started out as shit and had nowhere better to go.

          I might also note that platforms are, at their heart, reflections of the people who run them. And people get older, they leave certain platforms and join others, their tastes and interests change over time.

          I think Reddit was doomed the day Aaron Swartz left way back in 2007. And I tend to see platforms and websites fumble the bag at the transition. No idea what’s going to happen to Wikipedia once Jimmy Wales is gone, for instance.

          But new stuff comes in to fill the gaps. Its hard to see in hindsight, but there’s always green shoots on the horizon. You often simply don’t realize how nice a thing is until its gone.

    • 87Six@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      1 day ago

      The same reddit that allows subreddit mods to get you banned site-wide on a whim

      • BilSabab@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        1 day ago

        i got my account nuked right after some burner account started asking me to add them to my sub. after politely declining, dude just went on comment bombing spree, so i banned him and them my account got stalked into permaban. Which is stupid because I don’t post political stuff

    • ameancow@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 day ago

      At least you had bots, I had an actual mod of a huge sub report me to admins because I asked why I was banned for quoting someone’s comment and then reporting them for hate, 12 years of good standing and a stint as a mod also just flushed because the site is managed by unpaid child labor.

  • JustTheWind@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    19
    ·
    2 days ago

    I have only ever seen the “Harm prevention” report used exclusively for the purpose of harassment on Reddit. I’m talking like 99.99999% of the time. Everything about that: from the corporate flavored, performative bullshit to the superficially empathetic, and conspicuously caring, two-faced nature of the whole thing really pisses me off. I would prefer if they were just honest about not giving a fuck, frankly.

    • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 day ago

      I think it’s because people know that those who really need that kind of help aren’t going to benefit from some corporate approved form “we care!” message.

      So the people who use it are either the “wants to be helpful but is very bad at determining who needs help and how to help” type or the trolling type.

    • DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      18
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 day ago

      “now” is odd phrasing from an 8 day old account.

      I think I’ve seen this artist’s work posted here for over a year.

    • Vespair@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      edit-2
      1 day ago

      Some of us tried really hard not to let these drama-drenched nothing comics take over here, but it seems enough of the community thinks “relatable” is substitution for humor or substance, so here are. I’ve blocked some of the accounts that post PCC and similar garbage, but unfortunately you have a few users like King here who I don’t want to block because they do actually participate in the greater Lemmy community but unfortunately also mass-post a bunch of garbage like this low-effort because I’m sure some people think bad content is better than no content. 🤷

      • 46_and_2@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 day ago

        I’ve actually had to block her account on Reddit, because it’s usually low effort humor or just plain drama, but always highly upvoted - so always comes on top of your feed, in place of other comics. But you don’t have that option here since it’s not the official account posting…

        I wish there was a comic creator label in such post titles, so we could easily filter them.

  • Rhoeri@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    33
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    2 days ago

    This is ironic considering the source. Didn’t she go crying to Reddit admins to stop people from sharing anything negative about her? I recall people being banned for simply saying they through her comics were low-hanging-fruit and generic.

    • rozodru@pie.andmc.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 day ago

      yes. also a while ago I believe someone on Reddit came up with “proof” that she was also paying a PR type of company to upvote and post positive comments on her posts. Take it with a grain of salt but their proof was essentially people that would comment on her posts ONLY used reddit to comment on her comic posts.

      Not a fan or her work or her onlyfans “work” but meh she does play the system well I’ll give her that.

    • yermaw@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      42
      ·
      2 days ago

      “Someone thinks you may be suicidal” translates to “you hurt someone’s feelings at some point”

      • Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        10
        ·
        2 days ago

        I always knew I had won an argument when they stopped replying and I got the Reddit cares message. If the ‘report abuse’ link that was in those messages ever led to consequences I never saw it.

        • skisnow@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          1 day ago

          I’ve never heard of a single instance of someone getting a ban for abusing Reddit Cares, which is particularly bad given how easy it is to report and prove.

    • M137@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      2 days ago

      There has never been a place or moment where that wasn’t a thing. People suck, and any tools like that will always be misused. There’s a reason reporting people anywhere isn’t an automatic and immediate thing.

    • cliffracer_cloaka@piefed.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      2 days ago

      Many times. Interestingly enough, mostly after being critical towards the alt-right (Nazis, Fascists, MAGA).

      The perfidious idea is to remind potential suicides about the possibility. Imagine being that hateful.

    • Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      14
      ·
      2 days ago

      It made me laugh when it was in response to someone getting mad at me after arguing, but occasionally I’d make a highly upvoted comment that was related to being trans or gay and then get them, and that pissed me off. It’s not possible to prove that’s what happened without access to server logs of course, but I for sure wasn’t talking about being depressed or suicidal or anything like that on Reddit, and it was suspicious at minimum.

    • mesa@piefed.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      2 days ago

      It would be nice if we didn’t bring reddits controversies over here. We got real stuff to talk about. Not some he said / she said deal.

    • fishos@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      52
      arrow-down
      25
      ·
      edit-2
      2 days ago

      Especially when it’s in response to the recent discussions about how she bots her posts to reach the front page everytime, has arrangements with the mods of the sub to remove any negative comments, tried to sue another sub for making parodies of her comics(and getting mods to ban anyone who mentions that sub in comics), makes ridiculous strawman arguments constantly(like this one), and how she uses her comic as a front for her OnlyFans.

      She’s a parasite on the comics community and she’s finally starting to be called out for it, which is why you’re seeing comics like this to try and get ahead of it. She’s just trying to shift the drama to something besides her actions. She’s hoping reframe all of her criticisms as just a bunch of maga/incel harassment instead of actually addressing any of it.

      • Wigglesworth@retrolemmy.com
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        2 days ago

        I wouldn’t go that far.

        Every comic is a back and forth with a mental strawman. If you want to appeal to a bunch of self-righteous people on their soapboxes, daring the world to prove them wrong, well… guess what you’re drawing?

        If I had to wager, she knows full well and is sick of this format but has locked in to a point of no return.

        She should unironically go all-in with it and make a Straw Man character for her comic identity to constantly wage war with, like a Robbie Rotten.

      • Wren@lemmy.today
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        17
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        2 days ago

        I can’t find any information on this aside from Reddit threads and youtube vids based on reddit threads.

      • Serinus@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        19
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        2 days ago

        she uses her comic as a front for her OnlyFans.

        I haven’t really decided how I feel about this. Is it legit? I could see either opinion. It certainly drives her to make whatever comics that appeal to the masses. They function as an advertisement, and I know how I feel about advertisements.

        If I’m curating something that I’d publish, there’s no way in hell I’d include her stuff. Banning it from a platform is a number of steps farther than that, though.

        Artists need to make money, and there are certainly projects I appreciate where I’d encourage the artist’s method of making money. Where to find the line between the art as advertising for money and the money as funding for the art is an interesting discussion. You can absolutely tell in her case, but she shows that the line is blurry.

      • Ech@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        29
        arrow-down
        20
        ·
        2 days ago

        Lots of outrageous accusations without any evidence, with a bit of misogynistic sex shaming to top it off. Methinks you’re full of shit.

          • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            12
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            2 days ago

            Using r/comics for profit and advertising. Something we used to shame people for.

            should we, though? reddit is kind of trash anyway.

            I don’t see why self-promotion should rustle anyone’s jimmies.

          • Ech@lemmy.ca
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            14
            arrow-down
            12
            ·
            2 days ago

            Still nothing but your word that she’s “manipulating” anyone or anything.

            And, breaking news, everyone uses that sub for advertising. Do you also get this self-righteous when creators link their patreon or other socials? How exactly is OF different?

              • Wren@lemmy.today
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                20
                arrow-down
                5
                ·
                2 days ago

                I looked it up. I can’t find anything except people furiously agreeing in some hate-filled reddit ouroborus without a beginning. Can you link to something substantial, that isn’t reddit comments or videos about reddit comments?

                From what I’ve seen, she posts crowd-pleasing media, seems to like online attention, has been cool with people reworking her comics, lost her shit for a week or so at one point, and has an onlyfans.

                How do you know she has bots?

              • Ech@lemmy.ca
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                10
                arrow-down
                8
                ·
                2 days ago

                “Laser focus”, lol. You tried to justify the OF accusation and I explained why that’s bs.

                As for the “whole thing”, your word doesn’t prove anything and your outright refusal to provide even an ounce of evidence for your deluge of accusations suggests I’m not the one acting in bad faith here.

                • Orygin@sh.itjust.works
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  6
                  arrow-down
                  7
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  2 days ago

                  You don’t have to be a full blown redditor, just not be blind. Most of these accusations are easy to verify just by looking at her posts.
                  She regularly make self pity posts because “people are mean” (aka they don’t lick her boots), where she explicitly advertised her only fan. Last such post had 17k karma within 2 hours. Seems fishy no ?
                  She even boasted about gaining lots of follower after making rage bait and having her OF boosted by the engagement.
                  Comics moderators are known to be simp, and will remove any criticism of her comics, valid or not.
                  Investigate it yourself and you’ll see what’s going on. Instead you scream because we didn’t provide a ready to eat summary of what’s going on…

                  If you’re going the misogyny call-out route again, just know I held the exact same view of the blind guy that draws his wife nude. Same energy and they both defend each others because they have the exact same tactic to sell porn to teenagers on Reddit.

      • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        2 days ago

        how she uses her comic as a front for her OnlyFans

        Why are you trying to make me like her?

      • Swaus01@piefed.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        2 days ago

        It’s annoying because everyone seems to agree that reddit is shit (even people who use it addictively) [yeah that used to be me lol] But people decide it’s sh*t for different reasons… I’m assuming what you say is true, as it rings true, and that means she’s basically pretending to be pissed off at it for “based” reasons when she’s actually annoyed people point out her manipulating the site for profit - one of the main gripes people have with reddit.

  • Annoyed_🦀 @lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    19
    ·
    2 days ago

    Lol, that service do more harm than good, it’s been used by others to harass people they don’t like, and people who are suicidal doesn’t really care about a bot reply. It’s essentially useless gesture.

    • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      2 days ago

      It’s to protect Reddit from liability. Someone offing themselves is also the alleged reason for their zero tolerance policy.

    • nexguy@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      12
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      2 days ago

      No one said snark is bad, just some of the things snarky subreddits allow.

    • Darkmuch@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      11
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      2 days ago

      Ya, she was one only of the few comic artists I blocked as the comics never had any humor, just snark.