Russia is antagonizing Europe. They’re trying to steal Ukraine. In 2014 they stole Crimea. They wage hybrid warfare against Europe, The United States, Canada and I’m sure other countries too.
In addition note that Russia internally and globally through their propaganda network supports far-right policies that I’m sure especially given your username “Socialism_Everyday” would strongly be against your beliefs.
Can I ask are you happy with Donald Trump? I’m sure you’re not and you can thank Russia for him being elected twice. Not that Russia is the only one who supported him but I’m sure it was enough to tip the scale in his favor both times he won.
In 2014, Russia intervened in Crimea and annexed it as a hard slam on the table after the USA sponsored a colour revolution in Ukraine. Leaked calls of Victoria Nuland reveal that the USA essentially chose who they would place as president in Ukraine. Russia doesn’t have the propaganda power or economic power or intelligence power to maintain its sphere of influence through soft power against the USA, so it naturally resorts to military power which is the field where it can challenge the west. Regarding Crimea in particular it’s tricky too, because Crimea had a lot of ethnic Russians and many people in Crimea actually wanted to be part of Russia, but Ukraine, as any country would do, was violating the right to self determination of Crimean people in a similar way to what Spain does in Catalonia (I’m Spanish, hence the comparison).
I obviously disagree as a communist against far right policy, but believing the far right is a problem caused by Russia is simply unreasonable. Europe is literally the cradle of fascism, and my country had a 40 year long fascist dictatorship in friendly terms with all of Europe and the USA. 20 years of nonstop austerity regardless of the government in charge in all European countries have forced people into fringe political positions, and far right is promoted by capitalist western owners as an outlet of radical energy against socialism and unions, by framing the issue as a matter of feminism, immigration and identity politics. Russia does some targeting of such things too, but believing that Russia is at fault for the election of Trump and all of the far right over Europe is simply unhinged, and blaming some other nation for all the problems of Europe is not only bad analysis but will result in bad decisions.
You should be aware as a communist Russia infiltrates both the far-right and the “far-left” (I wanted to use another term to be more respectful towards you in case you found the words far-left to be not what you call what you believe so I put it in quotes to mean that’s what other people would call it). That’s how you get communists and socialists saying things like claiming the color revolution was sponsored by the US.
For the link you posted it seems Russia would have the whole call. Why would they only leak a little bit of it? Thinking in general: what could leaking a small amount of a larger conversation do? Also reading the transcript it just seems like people discussing their opinion.
Wikipedia does a great job explaining the history of what you’re talking about.
In November 2013, a wave of large-scale protests known as “Euromaidan” began in response to President Yanukovych’s sudden decision not to sign a political association and free trade agreement with the European Union (EU), instead choosing closer ties to Russia. Euromaidan soon developed into the largest democratic mass movement in Europe since 1989.[29] The Verkhovna Rada (Ukrainian parliament) had overwhelmingly approved finalizing the EU association agreement;[30] Russia had pressured Ukraine to reject it.[31] The scope of the protests widened, with calls for the resignation of Yanukovych and the Azarov government.[32] Protesters opposed what they saw as widespread government corruption and abuse of power, the influence of Russia and oligarchs, police brutality, human rights violations,[33][34] and repressive anti-protest laws.[33]
A large, barricaded protest camp occupied Independence Square in central Kyiv throughout the ‘Maidan Uprising’. In January and February 2014, clashes between protesters and Berkut special riot police resulted in the deaths of 108 protesters and 13 police officers,[20] and the wounding of many others. The first protesters were killed in fierce clashes with police on Hrushevsky Street on 19–22 January. Following this, protesters occupied government buildings throughout the country. Ukraine’s government resigned on 28 January. Most of the slain protesters were killed on 18–20 February, during the most severe violence in Ukraine since it regained independence.[35] Thousands of protesters advanced towards parliament, led by activists with shields and helmets, and were fired on by police snipers.[20]
On 21 February, Yanukovych and the opposition signed an agreement to bring about an interim unity government, constitutional reforms and early elections. Police abandoned central Kyiv that afternoon. Yanukovych secretly fled the city that evening.[36] On 22 February, the Ukrainian parliament unanimously voted to remove Yanukovych from office. About 73% of the parliament and members of all parties voted to remove him.[37][38][39][40] Yanukovych claimed this vote was illegal and asked Russia for help.[41] Russian propaganda described the events as a “coup”.[42][43][44]
Far-left isn’t insulting to me, I actually like those words. It implies that we’re further from the right than the left, which I believe to be true. I also don’t shy away from terms such as radical.
It’s not Russia saying that Ukraine had a colour revolution sponsored by the USA, it’s the USA itself, hence me pointing to leaked calls by Victoria Nuland and not to Russia Today. Communists were also called pro-Iran and Irani assets when they rejected the invasion of Iran, they were called Russian assets when they opposed the mass bombing of Vietnam, and they get called antisemites for opposing the genocide of Palestinians.
Wikipedia as a source for geopolitically charged topics is kinda useless. It is a source edited foremost by western men below 50, so it’s bound to portray the bias that western men below 50 portray. It almost exclusively uses western sources which aren’t reliable for geopolitically charged topics as I hope you noticed during the collective whitewashing of the genocide in Palestine that happened in front of our eyes for the past years. One only has to wonder why such “pro-democracy” and “pro-freedom” “spontaneous protests leading to regime change” only happen in countries with leadership aligned against the west, but nothing similar happens in Saudi Arabia, Morocco or Puerto Rico. I’ve read the information about the Maidan a thousand times and everything screams western involvement, including but not limited to the leaked calls I mentioned, or National Endowment for Democracy funding of NGOs and civil organizations. From the link: “In its 2015 annual report, NED admitted its grants played a role in the early stages of the 2013–2014 Revolution of Dignity protests. It allocated about $14 million between 2011 and 2014 to support Ukrainian NGOs, and credited groups like the Institute of Mass Information for active involvement in the uprising”.
Russia is antagonizing Europe. They’re trying to steal Ukraine. In 2014 they stole Crimea. They wage hybrid warfare against Europe, The United States, Canada and I’m sure other countries too.
In addition note that Russia internally and globally through their propaganda network supports far-right policies that I’m sure especially given your username “Socialism_Everyday” would strongly be against your beliefs.
Can I ask are you happy with Donald Trump? I’m sure you’re not and you can thank Russia for him being elected twice. Not that Russia is the only one who supported him but I’m sure it was enough to tip the scale in his favor both times he won.
In 2014, Russia intervened in Crimea and annexed it as a hard slam on the table after the USA sponsored a colour revolution in Ukraine. Leaked calls of Victoria Nuland reveal that the USA essentially chose who they would place as president in Ukraine. Russia doesn’t have the propaganda power or economic power or intelligence power to maintain its sphere of influence through soft power against the USA, so it naturally resorts to military power which is the field where it can challenge the west. Regarding Crimea in particular it’s tricky too, because Crimea had a lot of ethnic Russians and many people in Crimea actually wanted to be part of Russia, but Ukraine, as any country would do, was violating the right to self determination of Crimean people in a similar way to what Spain does in Catalonia (I’m Spanish, hence the comparison).
I obviously disagree as a communist against far right policy, but believing the far right is a problem caused by Russia is simply unreasonable. Europe is literally the cradle of fascism, and my country had a 40 year long fascist dictatorship in friendly terms with all of Europe and the USA. 20 years of nonstop austerity regardless of the government in charge in all European countries have forced people into fringe political positions, and far right is promoted by capitalist western owners as an outlet of radical energy against socialism and unions, by framing the issue as a matter of feminism, immigration and identity politics. Russia does some targeting of such things too, but believing that Russia is at fault for the election of Trump and all of the far right over Europe is simply unhinged, and blaming some other nation for all the problems of Europe is not only bad analysis but will result in bad decisions.
You should be aware as a communist Russia infiltrates both the far-right and the “far-left” (I wanted to use another term to be more respectful towards you in case you found the words far-left to be not what you call what you believe so I put it in quotes to mean that’s what other people would call it). That’s how you get communists and socialists saying things like claiming the color revolution was sponsored by the US.
For the link you posted it seems Russia would have the whole call. Why would they only leak a little bit of it? Thinking in general: what could leaking a small amount of a larger conversation do? Also reading the transcript it just seems like people discussing their opinion.
Wikipedia does a great job explaining the history of what you’re talking about.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity
Far-left isn’t insulting to me, I actually like those words. It implies that we’re further from the right than the left, which I believe to be true. I also don’t shy away from terms such as radical.
It’s not Russia saying that Ukraine had a colour revolution sponsored by the USA, it’s the USA itself, hence me pointing to leaked calls by Victoria Nuland and not to Russia Today. Communists were also called pro-Iran and Irani assets when they rejected the invasion of Iran, they were called Russian assets when they opposed the mass bombing of Vietnam, and they get called antisemites for opposing the genocide of Palestinians.
Wikipedia as a source for geopolitically charged topics is kinda useless. It is a source edited foremost by western men below 50, so it’s bound to portray the bias that western men below 50 portray. It almost exclusively uses western sources which aren’t reliable for geopolitically charged topics as I hope you noticed during the collective whitewashing of the genocide in Palestine that happened in front of our eyes for the past years. One only has to wonder why such “pro-democracy” and “pro-freedom” “spontaneous protests leading to regime change” only happen in countries with leadership aligned against the west, but nothing similar happens in Saudi Arabia, Morocco or Puerto Rico. I’ve read the information about the Maidan a thousand times and everything screams western involvement, including but not limited to the leaked calls I mentioned, or National Endowment for Democracy funding of NGOs and civil organizations. From the link: “In its 2015 annual report, NED admitted its grants played a role in the early stages of the 2013–2014 Revolution of Dignity protests. It allocated about $14 million between 2011 and 2014 to support Ukrainian NGOs, and credited groups like the Institute of Mass Information for active involvement in the uprising”.