Ukraine war latest: EU agrees €90bn loan for Ukraine as Putin tells BBC the West is ‘making Russia the enemy’ - BBC News

  • GrammarPolice@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    You’re going to have to provide some sources that provide publicly verified, conclusive evidence that goes beyond simple leads or speculation for your claim about the Nordstream.

    Also Russia’s economic treaties do not prove that they weren’t intending to invade anyways.

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      9 hours ago

      About the Nordstream, even Wikipedia echoes this…

      “On August 21, 2025, the Italian police arrested a Ukrainian man on suspicion of being involved in the sabotage,[19][20][21] following European arrest warrants issued by German authorities[22] and on September 30 near Warsaw Polish police arrested another Ukrainian, who had evaded arrest since August 2024. As of September 2025 the German investigation reportedly had identified seven suspects including former members of a private diving school in Kyiv, one of whom has died.[23] In October 2025 the suspect arrested in Poland was released when a Polish court denied the German extradition request”

      Economic treaties kinda do imply a good intention, don’t they? We see the opposite usually, with the USA doing economic sanctions to Iran and Venezuela and attacking them later.

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        9 hours ago

        Your cited Wikipedia shows that Ukrainians were involved in the sabotage not that the Ukrainian state was involved in the sabotage. Two very big distinctions here. You also haven’t show where the US was involved in this.

        Economic treaties kinda do imply a good intention, don’t they?

        Have you ever heard of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact?

        Additionally, Ukraine’s economy was heavily tied in with Russia’s before the 2014 conflict.

        I think this shows a clear trend that runs counter to your claim