There are a handful, but they’re either too mundane for the typical conspiracy guy, or actually invalidate certain conspiracies.
Like climate change deniers. They believe that climate change is created by scientists to make more money or by shadow government to keep people in line with fear, or some combination of both.
The real conspiracy is, however, that Exxon Mobile knew about climate change 11 years before scientists at large discovered it and spent all that time creating the climate denying talking points we all know and love.
Right, but a conspiracy theory would be to go back to before climate change was a widely accepted thing and then claiming that Exxon were sitting on information that could ultimately lead to the end of human civilisation.
Many people make such claims about things that are currently happening, and are all lumped in together as insane people that should not be trusted.
Who are you to say there “are a handful” of legitimate conspiracy theories? Have you yourself looked into them yourself, or are you just saying what the majority would?
Just with the Trump administration itself, I would say there are hundreds of conspiracies going on there. Whilst many of them are out in the open, there are others we can theorise on.
As far as ones with solid supporting documentation: The various COINTELPRO operations, the Bay of Pigs fiasco, the attempts by the FBI to blackmail MLK, Watergate and its coverup, the Teapot Dome scandal, Iran/Contra, Nixon’s sabotage of the Vietnam peace talks, the coordinated campaign of lies that led up to the Iraq war, the Brooks Brothers Riot, the catholic church protecting pedo priests, the baptist church protecting pedo clergy, Soviet coverups of things like Lake Karachay and the first few days after Chernobyl before it became undeniable. And of course, the assassination of Julius Caesar.
Just because there are conspiracy theorists doesn’t mean conspiracies don’t happen.
Conversely, just because conspiracies happen doesn’t mean everything’s a conspiracy.
Yes, and countless crackpots reference Galileo when shouting out their latest thing that scientists don’t want you to know about. The one doesn’t automatically give even the slightest credence to the other.
Sure, but it works the other way around too; you can’t automatically rule out conspiracy theories as false just because they fall into the category of conspiracy theories. This is itself a plausible conspiracy theory; that the trope of conspiracy theories being associated with crazy idiots, and the prevalence of very stupid conspiracy theories, is supported and encouraged to provide additional cover for the real ones.
I would argue that even before the point where the conspiracies I mentioned were conclusively proven and accepted as common knowledge, it still made sense to seriously consider the possibility and not dismiss people doing so only because they were engaging in conspiracy theories (which absolutely happened). That mindset just helps them get away with it.
And yet, pizza gate, school shooting crisis actors, “Bush did 9/11”, fake moon landing, firmament, HAARP weather control, JFK killed by the CIA, et. al (to name a few) are all ephemeral bunk with no conclusive evidence to back them up.
Ok but what about the conspiracy theories which are the truth
Conspiracy theories are all bollocks. Real conspiracies don’t even bother to hide because they have the power and who’s going to stop them anyway?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory#Difference_from_conspiracy
There are a handful, but they’re either too mundane for the typical conspiracy guy, or actually invalidate certain conspiracies.
Like climate change deniers. They believe that climate change is created by scientists to make more money or by shadow government to keep people in line with fear, or some combination of both.
The real conspiracy is, however, that Exxon Mobile knew about climate change 11 years before scientists at large discovered it and spent all that time creating the climate denying talking points we all know and love.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/
Right, but a conspiracy theory would be to go back to before climate change was a widely accepted thing and then claiming that Exxon were sitting on information that could ultimately lead to the end of human civilisation.
Many people make such claims about things that are currently happening, and are all lumped in together as insane people that should not be trusted.
Who are you to say there “are a handful” of legitimate conspiracy theories? Have you yourself looked into them yourself, or are you just saying what the majority would?
Just with the Trump administration itself, I would say there are hundreds of conspiracies going on there. Whilst many of them are out in the open, there are others we can theorise on.
Example?
NSA spying, Epstein, diamond engagement rings, are some examples of conspiracy theories widely established to be real.
Auto companies buying up and shutting down public transit
As far as ones with solid supporting documentation: The various COINTELPRO operations, the Bay of Pigs fiasco, the attempts by the FBI to blackmail MLK, Watergate and its coverup, the Teapot Dome scandal, Iran/Contra, Nixon’s sabotage of the Vietnam peace talks, the coordinated campaign of lies that led up to the Iraq war, the Brooks Brothers Riot, the catholic church protecting pedo priests, the baptist church protecting pedo clergy, Soviet coverups of things like Lake Karachay and the first few days after Chernobyl before it became undeniable. And of course, the assassination of Julius Caesar.
Just because there are conspiracy theorists doesn’t mean conspiracies don’t happen.
Conversely, just because conspiracies happen doesn’t mean everything’s a conspiracy.
As Noam Chomsky used to say, that was basically the only legitimate conspiracy theory out there!
Considering how Chomsky was involved with Epstein, I can understand why he would want people to believe that.
Chomsky knew lots of people. He wasn’t “involved” with Epstein. And he was right lol
Have some receipts:
https://www.npr.org/2025/11/20/nx-s1-5613427/epstein-files-chomsky-bannon-summers-democrats
https://www.wbur.org/news/2025/11/20/emails-epstein-mit-harvard-trump-chomsky
There is literally nothing there that contradicts anything I said.
Yes, and countless crackpots reference Galileo when shouting out their latest thing that scientists don’t want you to know about. The one doesn’t automatically give even the slightest credence to the other.
Sure, but it works the other way around too; you can’t automatically rule out conspiracy theories as false just because they fall into the category of conspiracy theories. This is itself a plausible conspiracy theory; that the trope of conspiracy theories being associated with crazy idiots, and the prevalence of very stupid conspiracy theories, is supported and encouraged to provide additional cover for the real ones.
You can until they provide evidence. Because the onus of proof is on the claimant.
Acquire proof.
I would argue that even before the point where the conspiracies I mentioned were conclusively proven and accepted as common knowledge, it still made sense to seriously consider the possibility and not dismiss people doing so only because they were engaging in conspiracy theories (which absolutely happened). That mindset just helps them get away with it.
And yet, pizza gate, school shooting crisis actors, “Bush did 9/11”, fake moon landing, firmament, HAARP weather control, JFK killed by the CIA, et. al (to name a few) are all ephemeral bunk with no conclusive evidence to back them up.