Until China teams up with Russia, which they have already tested the waters of in Ukraine. Coming from the US, the biggest problem isn’t Russia. It’s the ability of any normal politician to accurately gauge them as a threat. If they are around in 4 years, and the Ukraine war hasn’t wrapped up, China and Russia will move to take over Europe and destroy what’s left of Democracy in the world. The US might even help them if we’re still being run by the orange pedo and his cronies at that time.
At this moment, Europe’s the only real democracy left on the planet that can’t be taken over through social media targeted ad brain washing like the US. But once the EU is off the map, every country run by a dictator or capitalist is free from EU regulations, scrutiny, and trade restrictions. So the US and or China would not hesitate to join Russia in destroying the EU if it means profit line go up.
The problem isn’t Russia, it’s doubting the greed of other nations that can and will work with them.
To add to that, western “democracy” is on the ropes. Supporting Israels genocide has cost them most of their credibility-- whether they were bullied into it by the US or not. The very concept of “Democracy” is hardly what we would have claimed it was even 20 years ago. And capitalism is in a stage of gross excess with no signs of fixing itself. Fewer people are willing to pick up a rifle and die for that.
How do you figure the China/Russia combo are going to overcome Europe still having nukes? That they’ll just gamble that no one will have the guts to use them and roll across the border?
The entire weight of the Russian military and decades of surplus are struggling to incapacitate a single, relatively poor country that’s operating on table-scrap military hardware that the wealthy EU countries are willing to part with. China are propping them up because it’s both highly profitable and politically expedient, but if anything, Russia has shown that they’d be the equivalent of Mussolini’s Italy if they became involved in a larger conflict; a liability that needs to be bailed out time and time again after constant fuck-ups.
I could see China making a go for Taiwan, but all of Europe? I’d have to see some much more concrete data that shows they’d be able to survive economically losing the EU as a trading partner during the course of such a prolonged conflict.
At this moment, Europe’s the only real democracy left on the planet that can’t be taken over through social media targeted ad brain washing like the US.
I can grant that the UK isn’t “Europe”, but this kind of mentality is rising all over.
I’d also say that it’s really about billionaires subjecting the working class to their will. I think they salivate at the idea of Chinese or Russian type government, implemented everywhere. Unruly or undesirable populace? Round the whole lot of them up and send them to a work camp! Hell, they are already doing that in the US with amendment 13. Not too big of a leap if they are already rounding people up and deporting them to random ass countries they had no affiliation with.
And if they get their data centers built, they’ll be able to “parse” through all this data they’ve been collecting and storing on us for over a decade now. That parsing will be AI based but will it really matter if it gets it wrong and the wrong person gets caught up in it?
Until China teams up with Russia, which they have already tested the waters of in Ukraine. Coming from the US, the biggest problem isn’t Russia. It’s the ability of any normal politician to accurately gauge them as a threat. If they are around in 4 years, and the Ukraine war hasn’t wrapped up, China and Russia will move to take over Europe and destroy what’s left of Democracy in the world. The US might even help them if we’re still being run by the orange pedo and his cronies at that time.
At this moment, Europe’s the only real democracy left on the planet that can’t be taken over through social media targeted ad brain washing like the US. But once the EU is off the map, every country run by a dictator or capitalist is free from EU regulations, scrutiny, and trade restrictions. So the US and or China would not hesitate to join Russia in destroying the EU if it means profit line go up.
The problem isn’t Russia, it’s doubting the greed of other nations that can and will work with them.
To add to that, western “democracy” is on the ropes. Supporting Israels genocide has cost them most of their credibility-- whether they were bullied into it by the US or not. The very concept of “Democracy” is hardly what we would have claimed it was even 20 years ago. And capitalism is in a stage of gross excess with no signs of fixing itself. Fewer people are willing to pick up a rifle and die for that.
How do you figure the China/Russia combo are going to overcome Europe still having nukes? That they’ll just gamble that no one will have the guts to use them and roll across the border?
The entire weight of the Russian military and decades of surplus are struggling to incapacitate a single, relatively poor country that’s operating on table-scrap military hardware that the wealthy EU countries are willing to part with. China are propping them up because it’s both highly profitable and politically expedient, but if anything, Russia has shown that they’d be the equivalent of Mussolini’s Italy if they became involved in a larger conflict; a liability that needs to be bailed out time and time again after constant fuck-ups.
I could see China making a go for Taiwan, but all of Europe? I’d have to see some much more concrete data that shows they’d be able to survive economically losing the EU as a trading partner during the course of such a prolonged conflict.
I agree on just about everything, except:
I wouldn’t be so sure:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/dec/29/number-people-britons-must-be-born-in-uk-rising-study
I can grant that the UK isn’t “Europe”, but this kind of mentality is rising all over.
I’d also say that it’s really about billionaires subjecting the working class to their will. I think they salivate at the idea of Chinese or Russian type government, implemented everywhere. Unruly or undesirable populace? Round the whole lot of them up and send them to a work camp! Hell, they are already doing that in the US with amendment 13. Not too big of a leap if they are already rounding people up and deporting them to random ass countries they had no affiliation with.
And if they get their data centers built, they’ll be able to “parse” through all this data they’ve been collecting and storing on us for over a decade now. That parsing will be AI based but will it really matter if it gets it wrong and the wrong person gets caught up in it?