I mean there are…some who are on the better side [see: Mike Prysner], but yeah. I think it gets most annoying when the concept of not celebrating it doesn’t even cross their mind. I don’t even know where to start with that mindset
Honestly I’m fine with it. I need people to tell the truth about who they are. Most of the time this is done with sanctimonious grandstanding on one caliber or another. Yesteryear it was crocodile tears for children they never cared about. Now it’s pearl clutching about nationalism for their beloved empire, or at least their understanding of it.
At least I can rest assured that I’m not just paranoid about what is happening in the world. That is an invaluable gift.
there’s a tiny bit of liberal moralism in these comments. we don’t have to debate whether they can be redeemed or not. no one’s asking you to be friends with them. all that matters is whether they can be helpful in the coming revolution. my tentative guess is prolly not
“deserve” is a heavy word in that first panel
Ok but Greg stoker goes hard tho
I don’t really see any diference…
Vietnam war had conscripts. Very big difference.
All I see is people going half way around the globe to kill children for their own material benefits.
The day that they turn their guns back at their masters will talk.
I promise you that conscripted privates were not benefiting materially in any way except through the indirect profiteering of the US by means of imperial acquisition.
The federal poverty line for an individual in 1976 was 1,375 dollars a year.
A private with less then 2 years active duty, or the standard conscription length, made 83.20 a month, or 998.40 dollars a year. Pre-tax.
That’s not exactly swimming in cash, which contributed immensely to the plummeting of conscript moral by the 70s.
they could’ve chosen to dodge the draft
Look I ain’t defending them and yes they should have but it is still a difference
Poor proletarian workers, especially minorities, did not have the resources to either run away to Canada, or the ability to subject their families to financial ruin by serving time in prison or leaving them behind.
The people who were dodging the draft were college educated labour aristocrats who had enough money themselves or from their families to keep their heads down in Canada until the draft blew over.
Should they have served time in prison or dodged the draft? Morally, absolutely. Materially? That’s where the idealism falls apart.
“You don’t understand the poor proletariat just had to kill Vietnamese farmers” let’s pretend this is true even so the vast majority of vets were volunteers
Keep malding radlib
hey at least they acted ashamed before lol
Right!?
Did any of these Vietnam veterans Change their tune after the war? Asking out of genuine curiosity
Yes, a good many. This is a puritan follow the rules society. Acting out has mostly still been within certain lines. There’s a difference between individualism and independent thinking, the latter is much more dangerous, socially and literally.
