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      As if normality wasnt the culturally reinforced hegemony explicitly containing all the isms leftists claim to be against? Like there is some disconnect with what comes out of your mouth with your stated values.

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    Oh at first i thought this was about Hasan Piker who also often mentions “be normal”. Hasan means it more as “don’t wear your cat ears or the i-hate-men shirt when trying to agitate at a lib protest”

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    The boys down at the dock mocked me for bringing my Soviet themed cat ears and Kim Jong Un body pillow. Smh 😡

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      Mfw doing community outreach isn’t standing on a podium in a replica NKVD uniform talking about how amazing Stalin is for two hours. Fucking libs 😡

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      This is a reaction to Brace from Trueanon’s “just be normal” thing. I think it’s gross, ableist, and willfully ignorant of current conditions.

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        I think you can read it generously, as “think a little about how what you’re saying and doing will be perceived by someone who may have their heart in the right place, but is pretty new to all this.”

        For instance, calling someone a Nazi over something like this is not going to be received very well by most people.

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          He’s a rich petit bourg anarchist who regulalry uses the r slur. I don’t think there’s a reason for me to read what he says generously.

          There’s no time for people to be “new at this”. Prosletyzing is for evangelical Christians…

          I’m comfortable with what I’ve said. I think it’s worth considering why insulting a “leftist” entertainer should be taken personally. He’s not a friend to anyone who would be here - he’s just milking patreon dollars.

          Also, someone who wants union labor rights and free healthcare for Amerikkkans without an end to the genocides is not functionally different from a Nazi.

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            He’s closer ideologically to your or me than probably 95% of the U.S., if not more. Criticism is fine, but when you’re starting with a group that small you’re not going to get anywhere if you’re writing off even someone like him.

            There’s no time for people to be “new at this”

            You’re not wrong – we’re really far from having an organized left capable of doing something – but pointing this out doesn’t change how people respond to new ideas.

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              He’s closer ideologically to your or me than probably 95% of the U.S., if not more. Criticism is fine, but when you’re starting with a group that small you’re not going to get anywhere if you’re writing off even someone like him.

              I’m not going to tell you you’re wrong to feel this way about him, but I increasingly don’t think 95% is enough. If someone like Fetterman is 80%, is that acceptable? Where’s the line? ( That’s mostly a rhetorical question)

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                Don’t think that scumbag fetterman is any where near 80% Communist, not even sure if he’s even 80% human to begin with.

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                  I kind of meant that as the point – like Fetterman is clearly not a comrade, but is more “left” than a lot of people in the U$

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                I don’t view Fetterman as anywhere near that close to most folks here.

                As far as where to draw the line… a really important question I don’t have a good answer to. I’m not sure anybody has a good, consistent answer. But I think implicit in the idea of building a mass movement is reaching outside of the circle of people who are basically all on the same page, because that circle is small.

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                  But I think implicit in the idea of building a mass movement is reaching outside of the circle of people who are basically all on the same page, because that circle is small.

                  If that mass movement is against autistic people, or against acknowledging the Gaza genocide, what is it a mass movement towards? What is acceptable to leave off to attract allies?

                  I really mean that rhetorically, I’m not trying to debate and be mean or whatever, I’m just trying to make sense of things.

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            union labor rights and free healthcare for Amerikkkans without an end to the genocides

            There is reason the nazis were called NATIONAL socialists. Of course when in power they actually didnt give german workers the treats they wanted, but that aspect was a major selling points for the nazis.

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      This is a reaction to a quote from a podcaster. I’ve paraphrased what the podcaster said and put it in the Nazi’s mouth because I think it’s funny and descriptive.

      The Nazis famously weren’t super friendly to people who had trouble being normal, among other things.

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    Communist auto-phobia strikes again

    Edit: I mean, I suffer from it too. Don’t want to say it like this isn’t something a lot of us suffer from