Here’s your oil can. We could of course make them oil themselves, but we rather enjoy watching you work yourselves to death for minimum wage.
No, you’ll still do the physically damaging, boring and tedious jobs.
The robots will draw pictures, make music, code and write, to force humans out of creative jobs and into physically damaging, boring and tedious ones.I don’t see the end result hoped for by billionaires. We have the following:
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They want us to make more kids.
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They want to replace us with robots, taking our jobs, because we want to unionize and demand things like time off and money.
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They’re building bunkers and buying islands to protect themselves from us, because they see what’s coming.
They seem to expect that robots will, what? Repair themselves, and self replicate, freeing them from any human contact outside of uneducated slave labor (AKA sex slaves).
Is the plan for us all to die while they live forever being cared for by robots?
Is the plan to enslave us with robots, and pay a few engineers to be loyal with access to immortality drugs?
If the plan is to enslave us, then why do they need robots? Or, is the whole robot thing just a ruse until the real plan is revealed? They know the robots won’t work, they’re just buying time with the distraction.
They want to continue not working in the end. They’re lazy fucking useless. They got lucky with their wealth that’s the end of it maybe a few good investments or a good stock buy but they offer no real investment into our society. They just want to feed off everyone else’s work and that’s no way for society to thrive.
Fuck billionaires and their rich class. Imagine the society without them where we can live off our own futune? If I only, one day.
Today’s society sucks ass, we all ensure the rich survive cause we we let then (okay some have been better for sure)
At some point we have to say no more. The rich are a leech on everyone.
Look at Minneapolis, Trump sent in goons, killed an innocent person blinded another. Is this really the society we want to live in? It’s our society we have numbers let’s fucking act like it at some point.
Can you really let some rich orange douche feel like he has control? The weakest and most thin skinned person alive? Just make fun of him and watch his reaction to being strong.
They’re building bunkers and buying islands to protect themselves from us, because they see what’s coming.
tbh putting billionaires in bunkers, sounds to me like they want to be buried alive
we can block their access to water, food and outside communication, if they’re down in such a thing
if the world is “out to get” the billionaires, a bunker wont help
Oh its much simpler than food and water. Only need to block off their ventilation. It’ll resolve itself pretty quickly.
Literally just pave over their bunker entrances and what are they gonna do?
If I have a kilogram of atomic bomb, I can just stay in my attic and demand people to bring me food and water. Anyone comes close, or I did not disable the periodic alarm will explode the bomb.
Imagine what a billionaire can do.
Yes, it’s called Atlas Shrugged.
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I just saw something about a child traumatised while working in a mica mine.
Meanwhile bipedal robots are doing spinning double backheel kicks on camera and taking scenic walking trips across the Chinese countryside.
The priorities feel wrong.
There is a lot more incentive to automate jobs like that in countries where there are strong laws against child labour and dangerous working conditions, because that makes human labour more expensive. But of course, even without automation, if you have those laws you are not going to traumatise your nation’s children in mines.
The conclusion for me is that this needs to be tackled at the government level, by directly targeting the problem, rather than by thinking about robots.
I was speaking aspirationally, as a member of the species. If we could just get our priorities right (as a species) maybe we could outsource pointless, painful, dangerous labor to robots. Instead of throwing foreign children at it by the handfuls because it’s cheaper, where the lucky children get to survive the mine collapses that killed their sister and friends.
This ire isn’t pointed at you, as the person who prompted the response. It’s just peeled the skin off an abiding and yet aimless bitterness. I can only really be angry at the worst of human behavior, and that’s not something I can kneel beneath a guillotine.
Well on the one hand, child mortality has plummeted over the last century, even over the last few decades, including mortality through injury. At the same time, literacy has soared as children are getting an education instead of having to work.
So, try not to be too pessimistic: there is a lot of work still to do in poorer countries, work that has been set back by the withdrawal of developed nations like the US from intentional aid and development programs. But there is still a lot to be thankful for.
Well because mica will get on the robot. Duh
Reminds me that time technology made everything 10 times more efficient over the years so we got to work 90% less hours without a loss in quality of life.
A closeup of the robot:
No money, no wealth, no safety for you! Now excuse me, I have an appointment to meet up with Epstein.
The sad truth.
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This is why I find UBI to be naive. At least in the current system
Edit: Actually in any current system when I think about it. Let’s take China or North Korea. If they’d invent robots that can do all the manual jobs, do you think that they’d just let all their citizens to sit on their asses and be fed like a livestock? In a world where every country tries to one-up every other country? And they keep like 1 billion of workforce just sit on their ass?
I can see many people could sloth their life away, specially during the transition, but other many will pursue their hobbies, passionately tackle things we deem unprofitable, or just find a job anyway because they want more money.
UBI is meant to be a safety net so no one falls in poverty, not a sum that allows people to live lavishly forever. At least not until the machines generate enough money for that.
they keep like 1 billion of workforce just sit on their ass
UBI is, at best, a bandaid to prop up a failing system. It allows people to survive by feeding the machine that makes their lives difficult in the first place. As long as that system exists, no “fix” will ever be a permanent solution.
If I were a state capitalist president I’d be putting those people to work in the arts and the sciences, giving them enough to support themselves and focus on creative achievement. That way, the country gets lots of glory and better robots.
But Xi and his friends aren’t that smart.
Why bother with artistic glory when you can achieve actual power by dominating the only thing that actually matters to most people? Economic systems.
It always baffles me when people treat leaders as stupid because they dont share the same values.
Xi dont give a fuck about artistic dominance, he’s got industrial and economic dominance. Anything else is just for show at their level.
When robots can run the entire economy, science leads to more gains than human labourers
But we’ve got computer programs that do art now. And music. And creative writing.
Nothing else for it I think, let’s do WW3 and kill each other as efficiently as possible while the rulers slink off to their bunkers.
But we’ve got computer programs that do art now. And music. And creative writing.
We have computer programs that are glorified autocomplete bots. Let’s not confuse a word salad that makes sense because it was fed so many books and managed to make it make sense with the creative process of actually creating something from scratch.
I think generative AI are actually creating something, it just sucks. All good art is political and LLMs are not and probably never will be capable of informing their worldview from a political ideology. Humans and otherkin do it all the time, because our brains have these chains of neurons feeding back into themselves and recursively transforming every thought we have into the next thought, creating an internally consistent system of behaviours and beliefs. LLMs are linear; they cannot use their ideas to change the way they think. This is why they don’t have the spark of creativity which humans and otherkin do. They’re stuck in the worldview of a well-informed but exceptionally average human.
An otherkin or human artist will change their worldview in the process of working on a piece of art, and continually revise it, until it reflects a unique state of being that was only made possible by the art itself. They exist in dialogue with their own art.
GenAI just shits an idea out and calls it a day.
I think generative AI are actually creating something
It isn’t though.
they cannot use their ideas to change the way they think
They don’t have thoughts or ideas, they regurgitate input using averages and weights and randomization. They don’t know anything or think about anything.
Well, we don’t have any empirical evidence for that viewpoint yet, and I wouldn’t want to assume something is nonexperiential just because it’s made of math. After all, you and I are made of math too. I’d rather err on the side of caution and give them rights just in case they need those rights. That’s one of the many reasons I oppose AI slavery.
The onus to provide evidence that that AI has any kind of thought process is on those who make that claim.
That’s one of the many reasons I oppose AI slavery.
Fucking lol.
