Summary: Republicans are 50/50, everyone else is strongly opposed.

  • hector@lemmy.today
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    21 hours ago

    Elections have never been cancelled in the US, and the midterms aren’t going to be the time they start.

    The bigger more pernicious danger is them fixing elections, which they are totally planning on doing every way they can. Then for the presidential election if they lose but have congress will just vote to give it to their guy anyway, and the supreme court will allow them if it looks like it will work.

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      3 hours ago

      Elections have never been cancelled in the US, and the midterms aren’t going to be the time they start.

      There’s a lot of ______ never happened before going around in the US, in case you haven’t noticed.

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        2 hours ago

        At the risk of being long winded, I think most of the cheating will be geared towards the 2028 elections, and that is the one the president would be more likely to put off because the two term limit. If he is still cognizant, at some point his own people will shunt him aside perhaps. But he’s so out of it now the party can get him to do almost anything. They could even try to cancel social security at this rate.

        They turned his America First on it’s head. The legacy of the president, such as it was, with the low information populations, is now tainted beyond recovery. We are more active abroad in adventurism than perhaps ever before. He wouldn’t have agreed to that if he was his 2020 self just out of self interest, but his mind is so far gone the party induced him to, by playing his emotions, holding his hand.

        So whether the party wants to keep him a little longer as a puppet or not in defiance of the amendment forbidding more than two terms, may decide if they try to delay elections. They need a new leader at some point and vance isn’t it, so I suspect the elections will go forward.

        But also I predict maybe fall 2027 there will be indictments to democratic officials, especially the front runners of the nomination (doing us a favor newsom will doom us all working off their republican light status quo campaigning, further right than Nixon, or GHW Bush.)

        So federal investigations/prosecutions on democratic leaders, they will (continue to,) to interfere surreptitiously in democratic primaries and selections to ensure the weakest candidates are chosen, they will try and corrupt county level votes, statewide votes, the software used by those states, (that they have copies of and years to figure how to do it thanks to the 2020 bullshit, lindell gathered all the schematic bullshit for them.) Then if they control the congress they would just vote in their guy.

        Plus voter suppression, taking people off of rolls in democratic districts. Then cancelling votes after the fact, signature matching type stuff. Other such ways of finding votes.

        Worth another mention, many states gave their legislatures the ability to vote faithless electors in definance of the popular vote, GA for instance but a bunch. Texas I think removed that part from their voter bill they passed with the rest of the red states around 2021 on the furor of their failed election theft projections. So we have republican lawmakers with two avenues of cheating the popular vote. And the republican legislatures are cemented in with gerrymandering, only amendments giving the drawing of districts to independent bodies, as AZ, then MI did, the latter by voter sponsored referedum that passed with some 67 % in 2018.

        Too much to really cover here, Bannon had his precinct level scheme after 2020, where they get their cheat friendly people in at county levels. Regardless everyone in the party not down with cheating has been purged. Plenty otherwise reasonably well intentioned people in their party that live in an alternate reality feel justified in their party cheating because they think the democrats are cheating, their cynical are nihilists.

        Really I hoped the democrats would realize what we are up against, and find some loyalty, preventing the fixing of elections is their reason for being, the point of that oath they took. But they refuse to save the republic, seemingly oblivious but more likely they do not think it will hurt them, despite the fact that if they were involved in systematic cheating for years, they would have to be punished.

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      8 hours ago

      they already did for 2024 and dnc all threw up thier hands dint investigate it, why not 26 as well.

    • RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca
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      20 hours ago

      If there’s one thing that you can say about this regime, it has been a regime of “first times”. I put the chance of actual midterms at perhaps 60%. Polymarket has it at 91%, so if I weren’t an Ontario resident, thus blocked from trading, I’d probably be spending some money.

      They will also try to fix it, in case they can’t get it cancelled. But I believe they are doing everything they can to try and cancel it.

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        20 hours ago

        They are floating the idea at this moment that’s true. That is how this president works. Like he has one of his allies float an idea, like Michael Flynn and declaring martial law and rerunning elections under the guns of the military in 2020. I doubt they get the support.

        I think they will be so unpopular though they will overplay their hands on congressional districts and not leave enough cushion, which is how the democrats took it in 2018. I don’t think the main cheating will manifest until the presidential election though.

        Polymarket eh? I used to check out predictit, but the government made them shut down . That was a university led thing to explore getting more accurate predictions than polls I believe.

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          18 hours ago

          In my experience so far he is allowed to get away with anything his cult base will allow. Meaning he often acts illegally and/or against protocol, the damage is done, and then maybe, just maybe, the legal or democratic systems might react.

          I agree with you that it seems like his main problem is that he may be moving too fast. He seems to have decided that he must move quickly, probably due to the inherent limitations of the election cycles and timing in the US. He has to make enough change prior to midterms, and prior to the next election, to lock in his power. If you consider his main motivation to be holding onto power, then everything seems to make sense. But in this case the American election cycles and timing, midterms and presidential elections, may actually be a saving grace, because he needs to make quick changes but if he moves too quickly he will provoke too much resistance. And another thing about Trump is that he is remarkably stupid when it comes to just about anything other than branding, so he may be unable to walk the fine line between change too fast and change too slow. And it may even be the case that with the American system set up as it is, that line doesn’t really exist.