• UnspecificGravity@piefed.social
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    This doesn’t stop with Trump. They voted for Trump and they voted for the congress that protects him. They will just pick another person that does the same thing, but probably sounds less stupid while doing it. This is an America problem.

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        I and many people I know have spent our whole lives trying to change the rigged system of FPTP/single-member constituency voting with the further distortion of state-based apportionment.

        The issue, as with any rigged system, is that it’s really hard to un-rig unless either the people benefitting from the rigging let it change (lol) or there’s a major upheaval—usually a war. It took WWI for the German voting system to be un-rigged in favor of the Junkers and Belgium to end their rigged system, and it took a civil war in America to end the 3/5 Compromise which was a start in the right direction and then a decade plus of sustained sctivism for the civil rights movement to see a real impact in voting rights.

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          The thing with the USA is they are permanently at war, and no war has changed the system. The people benefiting from it are thriving in their political system. What’s gonna happen when this two things can’t change the system? I’m afraid it’s gonna be a Civil conflict.

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            We’ve been in a cold civil war for years now. It’s just getting hotter and hotter.

            I’ve been to marches that were literally planned by children afraid of their futures and boomer men showed up with guns to scare them.

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              I agree, but these local policies completely opposed to the federal government will bring an armed conflict. If the National Guard decides to back one governor instead of staying loyal to Trump, to name one circumstance, then that may spark a national conflict. This is not the most probable thing to happen, with Black Panthers in the streets already, but it’s a delicate state of things. We have a saying for this that applies to Trump and the USA: it’s like freeing a goat in a glassware shop.

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                It’s crazy that I’m kinda hoping for a civil war, at this point. I don’t see any way out of this that isn’t an armed conflict.

                I didn’t come here until I was a teen and I was deposited into a state that is pretty hostile to everything that I am. My wife came to the US when she was 17 and its been a struggle for her since day 1.

                I am so beyond exhausted.

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        Check out the Election Truth Alliance. Definitely sketchy in some ways so take it with a MASSIVE grain of salt, but it could be on to something.

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      Nah. This specific thing is all him.

      Edit: shit, and Stephen miller, but he’s gone with trump I think.

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          His voters support him and are clueless about his actions and the world. Most republican representatives are just going along with it because he’s so powerful with his cult.

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            “His voters” being most of the people that cast votes in the presidential election, so yeah, its really not “just him” is it?

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              He has some kind of magical hold on his cult members. Of course the conservative propaganda machine (Fox, Newsmax, OANN, Twitter, TikTok) are so adeptly tuned to keep them brainwashed, but Trump himself is a once in a generation talent for leading the cult.

              Really I’m so impressed at how efficient the propaganda machine keeps the base so angry and so oblivious to reality. It’s completely terrifying, but really really effective.

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                The magical hold is simply telling them what they want to hear. They are responding to their racist fascist desires being validated.

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              They don’t support his ideas and actions. They’ve never thought about most of them. They support him and if he switched stances tomorrow they would follow.

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                Right. They support whatever his ideas are at the time, no matter how absurd or contradictory.

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      I beg to differ. His cult is hard carrying. Republican politicians don’t mind reversing all their opinions at the drop of a hat because opposing his cult has proven to be (until recently) political suicide. The [legal and natural] death of Donald Trump would leave the party in shambles. Susie Wiles and Stephen Miller need a figurehead and there isn’t any that can court maga.

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      They know Trump’s on his last legs. Peter Thiel put that fuckhead JD Vance in there for a reason. Things will escalate quickly if/when he becomes president.

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      It definitely does continue to some extent. He’s not only the cause but also a symptom of a rotten society. However, he is a once in a generation talent at leading the cult. While Vance is “fully enlightened” (as Yarvin and Thiel have said), he can’t command that same kind of magical hold on the cult.

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      I fully believe the fascism and shit continues. I’m not sure the Greenland thing does though. It seems like a weird personal obsession.

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        Natural resources becoming more accessible due to climate change and military positioning. I unfortunately doubt this ends with Trump.