• anon_8675309@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    You’re saying the same thing Trump is saying when he says the government should nationalize voting for 15 states.

    Voting rights isn’t a war we should fight unless we are fighting for every citizen.

    • dustyData@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      There’s no such thing as nationalizing the vote. That’s fascist talk, we can agree with that.

      But you do realize that the US is in this mess because people have been frozen into inaction by the perception that fighting back is just as bad as first hostility? This has frozen critical thinking and effective political activism (I have seen it work in other countries as well). There are healthy democracies in the world that work perfectly fine and are healthier because they have sensible limitations on voting rights and decision making procedures. You cannot have everyone vote, it is stupid. It is letting the Nazis into the bar. In the end you have a Nazi bar. You let irrational idealism run amok (unlimited freedom!) you end up right where the US is right now.

      The US hasn’t been a democracy for several decades now, stop trying to pretend it is and actually start to fix it. Unlimited freedom is not a good value, a moral and well functioning society needs limits on people’s freedoms and rights, so they don’t curb stomp on other people’s freedoms and rights. The problem is how do you draw the lines. The US just gave the chalk to the KKK and the democrats think it would be impolite to wrestle its control back. The US is doomed to become a dictatorship or a country in civil war because of this attitude you express. “Uuuh, you are saying the same thing as Trump” Idiot! Trump will spout any shit that keeps him in power, his words should never be taken seriously. Just accept he is a bully authoritarian and stop taking up his bullshit. Stop being reactionary to everything he says and start actively building the democracy that is needed to have a truly functioning country. Trump is a symptom, the disease has been running its course since two or three decades before Reagan. I have seen other countries run this road, and it is always accelerated by reactionaries who have no other thought to offer than freeze in place out of fear.