• va11kyrie@lemmy.ml
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    Sovereignty is a huge issue here - handing control of critical infrastructure to a US oligarch is just begging to be coerced and exploited.

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      Same applies to all social networks and MS Windows, right? Just making sure I’m tracking - these are also hated here? Things that rich people own manufacturing of? What about cars? They’re pretty much govt spyware now too. Just wondering how far this govt coercion hatred extends into everyday life.

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        Same applies to all social networks and MS Windows, right

        YES

        What about cars?

        /c/fuckcars

        Just wondering how far this govt coercion hatred extends into everyday life.

        A lot

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        Yep people here hate windows. We hate cars, for reasons aside from spying as well they just generally suck.

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            People still drive but only because we have no choice most of the time. In a lot of places particularly the US and Australia it’s impossible to participate in society without owning a car or people thinking there is something wrong with you.

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        Same applies to all social networks and MS Windows, right?

        The only social networks I willingly use are Fediverse instances, none I’m registered on are hosted in the US.

        No device in my house runs Windows. Linux is an upgrade, I recommend it.

        Things that rich people own manufacturing of?

        As a socialist, I believe the working class must seize the means of production, and am doing my part in building that future for us all.

        What about cars? They’re pretty much govt spyware now too.

        Yes, I despise the ‘smart’ features shoved into cars, televisions, etc… I am also active in /c/fuckcars, I am critical of their overuse and rarely use one.


        Now, none of this is necessary for us to recognize that giving the US control of important infrastructure is dangerous. But you did ask. And many governments are also moving away from US infrastructure, although more slowly.


        As for Starlink, its common use is the result of laziness and neglect. Satellite internet is clearly not the cheapest, fastest or most efficient for most of its customers to get modern internet infrastructure. Governments should be reducing their citizens’ need for Starlink as a serious priority, by building internet infrastructure.

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        Unironically, yes. I don’t know if you’re trying to make that scenario sound ridiculous, but I can assure you that it very much is not. At least outside of the US.

        It’s not everyone at the moment, but the IT people who are paying attention are freaking the fuck out. I legitimately think Microsoft, AWS, and GCP will lose substantial market share overseas in the next 24 months.

        Consider that much of the rest of the world has started trusting China more than the US. Now think about the US CLOUD Act. What person in their right mind is going to feel comfortable hosting their company’s most sensitive data within jurisdictional reach of whatever the fuck is going on over there?

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          I am inside the United States and those corporations are all cancer and need to be cut out before they further spread.

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          Oh I agree! But I still drive a car and use windows when I have to. I don’t want to, but to avoid it is currently quite a life nuisance. And that’s I suppose how I feel about those who use Starlink.

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          Oh I agree! But I still drive a car and use windows when I have to. I don’t want to, but to avoid it is currently quite a life nuisance. And that’s I suppose how I feel about those who use Starlink.

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            12 hours ago

            did you ever wonder how we got steered into a situation where we’re forced to use windows, and cars, and starlink?