Iām not a Mastodon/etc. users but I can sympathize with some other sites. Even here has its own Ongoing September from redditors.
I would recommend reaching out to moderation teams and raising awareness, because they probably have far more ability to put global notifications or sign-up messages, and to give warnings to uncomfortable behaviour.
Make sure to call out twitter carryover, in a constructive way, so that people are aware that Mastodon isnāt ātwitter but hereā.
You were right to call it dubious, I was incorrectly informed. Salt is considered the major suspected culprit. A search for ājapan diet stomach cancerā will give a bunch of studies and articles, I of course canāt verify them but itās definitely a studied phenomenon. One study says: āMortality ratios [from stomach cancer] are higher in northern Japan, particularly in areas facing the Japan Seaā while many in the south āshow low ratesā.
Please the report feature to bring up troublesome users (or if really necessary, the lemmy.ml community), this community is for the software called Lemmy.
I think this is a really good chain of logic!
Not particularly. Itās literally guilt by association.
They make a good point about defederation not letting us ban them and therefore it shouldnāt be seen as a protection, but that user was federated with us for a long time and wasnāt banned. There were opportunities and the moderation team didnāt choose to. So I donāt think thereās an implicit ban-evasion element on a personal level, they were tolerated and if I remember correctly the defederation was due to antagonistic user interactions between the communities like vote brigading and troll accounts.
I wouldnāt be against the user being banned here for things like shilling and some of their comments here. But defederation and their activities elsewhere have nothing to do with it.
I donāt see the relevance of lemmy.ml being federated. That wouldnāt make it ok. If another community we federate with tolerated a couple of neonazis then that doesnāt make those users ok because we find the platform as a whole tolerable to federate with.
I think you have a valid point with the shilling. I agree with you there. Itās not bigotry in itself but it is abusing this forum to promote anti-egalitarian intolerance (which is undeniably and inevitably what that platform primarily hosts, regardless of its adminās claims of platform neutrality). Plugging wolfballs is contrary to the stated purpose of this platform, and an unlikely but possible gateway to it gaining dangerous popularity. That is something they are doing here on their account, and I would support the rules being updated to ban it.
I donāt think fascism can be described as those behaviors, itās an ideology.
Those two behaviors you described arenāt in isolation. Canāt a meme be fascist propaganda? Canāt a meme attempt to dehumanize or justify violence without calling for it? Is fascism only dangerous when it reaches the point of open violence?
I donāt agree with the line of reasoning that āwolfballs is fascistā, I think thatās ignorant of what fascism is and why non-fascism can also be horrible, but I donāt think the āitās just memesā argument is helpful.
Itās counterproductive to conflate racism, homophobia and transphobia with fascism.
Theyāre all disgusting behaviors. Make no mistake, theyāre all mindless, anti-social, and dangerous. However lumping them into the term fascism trivializes what makes fascism in particular dangerous or appealing to its audience, it falsely suggests that fascism without those traits, a national fascism rather than a racial fascism (which is indeed what some fascists propose) isnāt reprehensible, and makes people who have seen a defintion of fascism think itās just an ignorant slur just like calling any queer person a liberal, which will make people just not listen.
You donāt have to be one to be the other. Theyāre all horrible. Donāt pretend their problem is being a fascist; their problem is being a racist anti-queer idiot.
Well, how do the admins here define āleftistā?
Thatās actually a major part of my post. We canāt recommend a better idea without knowing your own definition because āleftistā is just so ambiguous. Thatās why itās a problem. If I know how you define it, I can suggest a few alternatives.
Spoiler: The original is this comic.
And what if some anarchists here were uncomfortable about you hanging around lemmygrad and insulting them over there? Would it be appropriate for a mod here to ban you because you were associated with a community which has been known to make many leftists here uncomfortable?
The bottom line is youāre still able to create civil, unoffensive and constructive conversation here, despite doing things elsewhere that will make people here uncomfortable.
Well, thatās something that needs to be resolved, sooner is better than later, or it will lead to more drama later. Are you using your staff position to enforce personal opinions/preferences, or are you taking the role of a moderator enforcing site rules?
The 4 site rules here (especially #2) seem clear to me that people shouldnāt be banned merely for their supposed personal opinions, or what they do elsewhere.
I completely disagree. In fact, āfreedom of speechā is not why I use Lemmy instances as opposed to other sites. I havenāt been banned from any reddit-like site. Itās also not why I use PeerTube. And based on what Iāve seen, 'free speech ā isnāt the main reason why people use Pixelfed/Mastodon/Pleroma. Most of the millions moving to Mastodon arenāt doing it because they or their friends were banned or censored. The following points apply just as much to those platforms as they do Lemmy:
Even your implicit argument of different rules/moderation isnāt the main reason I use Lemmyās federation. Federation allows small communities with different communities, different moderation and different softwares to cross-pollinate. This is extremely useful for social media platforms where popularity is (letās generalize) necessary, and we donāt have the first mover advantage like reddit.
In small communities this helps them stay alive. Iāve been on sites that have died. Itās not fun! Thatās one thing federation solves for me.
Having been a moderator for many highly-liberal (as in liberty, like āfreedom of speechā) communities, youāll understand what I mean when I say not all speech is worth reading, even if there is value in letting people be allowed to say it. So, you are right in that federation has an appeal for āfreeze peachā idealists. Wolfballs exists and federates, despite their users being banned from the most popular instances. Lemmygrad didnāt want to listen to the neo-nazis who were taking advantage of Wolfballsās freedoms. So due to federation, Wolfballs still have a platform and community, and Lemmygrad donāt have to waste their time scrolling through it, while both communities have access to other less-political federated instances. Thatās a real scenario that happened. Not some idealistic what-if.