Matrix and clients for it like Element have always been my go to for federated chat like discord/teams/mattersmost. The main missing feature is voice channels imho.
The lack of voice channels is huge for something that looks like it is trying to be a discord alternative. I really can’t believe it still isn’t really implemented.
Honestly though even setting aside the lack of voice channels there is a bigger issue. Getting people to switch to something like matrix. I have so much trouble trying to get my group to switch to ANYTHING new. Tried to get them to switch from iMessage to telegram or signal. They tried it for a day and then went back. Getting them to switch from razer comms to discord was even a removed back in the day. People just don’t like trying new things.
Sorry for the rant I just find this endlessly frustrating. Lol.
Calling other people’s work embarrassing is easy when you’re not the one building or contributing to the codebase. Implementing voice chat is no easy task, and it’s all done voluntarily in people’s free time.
Matrix Spaces are broken enough. Even Conduit doesn’t support that feature. Don’t expect Matrix to fully resemble Discord, not even Cinny. Matrix is meant for secure conversations.
I feel your pain. I once wanted to guide my buddies away from WA and had them in a Telegram group. And you know what the comment was? ‘Boring, nothing happening here.’
That’s like complaining that nothing happens in a phone booth… everyone, except for me, went back to WA. 🤷
TURN is only used as a relay. It’s just a low(er)level transport layer, not specific to VoIP. Typically it is used as fallback when P2P communication between the attendees is not possible (for example due to a restrictive firewall).
To clarify, that’s for them hosting the service for you, and is intended for enterprises mainly. You can self host element, since it’s open source, while only paying your own server costs, or just use an existing instance like on https://app.element.io
Matrix and clients for it like Element have always been my go to for federated chat like discord/teams/mattersmost. The main missing feature is voice channels imho.
Which is coming. Eventually. At some point.
Man I hope so! The beta is out for element support https://call.element.io
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The lack of voice channels is huge for something that looks like it is trying to be a discord alternative. I really can’t believe it still isn’t really implemented.
Honestly though even setting aside the lack of voice channels there is a bigger issue. Getting people to switch to something like matrix. I have so much trouble trying to get my group to switch to ANYTHING new. Tried to get them to switch from iMessage to telegram or signal. They tried it for a day and then went back. Getting them to switch from razer comms to discord was even a removed back in the day. People just don’t like trying new things.
Sorry for the rant I just find this endlessly frustrating. Lol.
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Calling other people’s work embarrassing is easy when you’re not the one building or contributing to the codebase. Implementing voice chat is no easy task, and it’s all done voluntarily in people’s free time.
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Matrix Spaces are broken enough. Even Conduit doesn’t support that feature. Don’t expect Matrix to fully resemble Discord, not even Cinny. Matrix is meant for secure conversations.
I feel your pain. I once wanted to guide my buddies away from WA and had them in a Telegram group. And you know what the comment was? ‘Boring, nothing happening here.’ That’s like complaining that nothing happens in a phone booth… everyone, except for me, went back to WA. 🤷
WA is better atleast you got E2E encryption there. It works or not well that’s an another question.
What’s WA?
WhatsApp
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Try changing your group.
Aren’t voice and video calls (basically VoIP) what Turn (coturn) is supposed to support?
https://matrix-org.github.io/synapse/v1.41/turn-howto.html
TURN is only used as a relay. It’s just a low(er)level transport layer, not specific to VoIP. Typically it is used as fallback when P2P communication between the attendees is not possible (for example due to a restrictive firewall).
Element is kinda janky and crashes all the time for me. And also the UI is very confusing to use.
I haven’t had Element crash on me in a while, but that was a big annoyance for me too for a long time.
I hear everyone talk about element but when i go to check it out i see it is minimum 50 users. Am i missing the smaller tier?
To clarify, that’s for them hosting the service for you, and is intended for enterprises mainly. You can self host element, since it’s open source, while only paying your own server costs, or just use an existing instance like on https://app.element.io
Self hosting might make sense on that small of a scale.